Valutrust Turns the ROV Into a Pressure Tool
Every so often a social media post surfaces that exposes the AMC problem with such clarity that it almost reads like satire. One recent social media post described an exchange with a Valutrust staff appraiser that perfectly illustrates how far some AMCs have drifted from anything resembling appraiser independence. The staff appraiser opened with the classic AMC dominance line. I have been appraising longer than you have been alive. It is the kind of statement people use when they want authority without earning it, and it reveals more about their insecurity than their experience.
The conversation continued with a request to throw them a bone, AMC shorthand for please abandon your analysis and give us the number that keeps the lender quiet. The staff appraiser even admitted he was just trying to not get in trouble, which is remarkable considering the trouble he feared was the consequence of not influencing an appraiser aggressively enough. When someone is comfortable saying that out loud, it becomes painfully clear that the culture inside certain AMCs is not simply misguided but fundamentally hostile to independence.
The post also highlighted something regulators should not overlook. The Reconsideration of Value (ROV) process was being used not as a legitimate request for clarification or correction, but a strategy to push for a higher value. The ROV has become the AMC version of a negotiation tactic, a mechanism that is supposed to address factual errors or present additional comparable data but is increasingly deployed as a veiled demand for a different outcome. When an AMC uses the ROV process to pressure an appraiser, it is a deliberate attempt to steer the result of a regulated assignment under the guise of quality control.
Responses from other appraisers were immediate because they have seen this pattern too many times to pretend it is isolated. Report Valutrust to the state board. Document everything. Walk away. Appraisers shared their own experiences of pressure, manipulation, and outright attempts to influence value, stories that appear with such frequency that they no longer sound like warnings but like routine job descriptions. The profession is full of appraisers who have been pushed, cornered, and coached by AMC staff who believe their opinions override the data, and the only surprising part is how many AMCs behave as if no one is paying attention.
AMCs were created to protect independence by inserting a buffer between lenders and appraisers. Instead, they became the buffer that tries to keep lenders satisfied, borrowers satisfied, brokers satisfied, and appraisers submissive. They are the only entity in the mortgage process that can misunderstand the regulations, misapply the guidelines, misinterpret the data, and still insist they are the guardians of quality. They have positioned themselves as unofficial reviewers without the training, oversight, or accountability that actual reviewers must maintain, and their influence has become less protective and more corrosive with each passing year. Valutrust is simply one example of a broader problem, but it is an example that demonstrates how easily an AMC can turn a regulatory safeguard into a pressure campaign.
Regulators already know this pattern. They see the complaints, the disciplinary actions, the repeat offenders. They know that AMCs often operate with the confidence of someone who has never read the statute but is certain they understand it better than the people who wrote it. They know that ROVs are increasingly used as pressure tools rather than correction tools. They know that independence is strained not by lenders directly, but by the middlemen who believe their job is to extract a number rather than protect a process.
The appraiser who wrote the social media post is preparing to notify their state board, armed with portal notes, ROVs, emails, and a summary of the phone call that they wish had been an email. That is exactly what independence requires. If AMCs want to claim they have been appraising longer than anyone has been alive, then they can explain to regulators why they still have not learned the rules. Independence is the foundation of the profession, and if the middleman continues to be the weakest link, regulators may eventually decide that the chain is stronger without it.
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Good thing an amc representative sits on the state appraisal board where the complaint will be filed against the amc, they will help the complaint simply go away, or if it sticks, watered down penalties. Sometimes you just get lucky. What does it say about this industry when everyone knows this is happening, most have personal direct experience with similar situations, nobody actually does anything about it at the institutional and managerial level. One complaint is not going to make a difference. The system of separation from mortgage loan production is in fact, running exactly as it is intended to run. Amc’s are loan production now. Whomever has direct contact with the appraiser becomes loan production. What comes next is the appraiser complies or they get blacklisted. Happens every day of the week.
Virginia feels like the only board actually showing what accountability can look like. I get why people feel nothing changes, but I still think every complaint counts. If more appraisers filed them, they would not be able to brush all of it aside. Staying quiet is exactly how the system keeps running the way it does.
I received a 2 ROVs for the same property. True story. They don’t give damn. Why should they; there is no oversight.
I’m proud to say I’ve had hundreds of ROV’s and VA Tidewaters over nearly 28 years and in only one case did I change the value (solar turned out t be owned and not leased). Left to be completely independent and not influenced by others ROV’s are a significant waste of time to the appraiser. How many borrowers, lenders, or AMC’s would ask for an ROV if they had to pay the appraiser for their time? Zero! ROV’s are asked for because they are free.
Big picture, some +/- 80% of the purchases that were flagged for an ROV from me went on to close with significantly reduced sales prices. To the point, when I’m asked how much an appraisal costs, the true answer is on average borrowers save by way of reduced contract prices 5 times more per year than what my gross fees are. Read that sentence again and like I used to tell the appraiser coach, but principles before profits and do your job.
Seek the truth.
The VA appraisal assignment model will not stand the test of time, appraisers will eventually lose this to the amc model. The exact same lenders whom understand these pressure systems work outside of the VA, know how much loan volume and income they’re trading down because of independent appraisers protected by VA process. They provide the loans on both sides and have clear data regarding how process differences effect loan outcomes. That’s why the lenders purposefully use amc’s outside of the VA model. If those lenders believed in sound process and consumer protection, they would compare VA outcomes vs other GSE’s, and stop using amc’s. They do not do that. The lenders whom work with the VA continue to use amc’s outside of the VA.
With the increased liability protection and distortion of markets in ways they can control via central planning that comes with appraisal waivers, hybrids, pdc’s, and the new 3.6 forms, the pressure applied to bring the VA into alignment will be greater than ever before. Eventually the entire market will shift to one way of going about things. Either the general industry adopts a mirror of the VA process, which is the IVPI Proposal, or the entire thing moves to the amc model eventually. If you refused to submit to ROV process with amc’s outside of VA, you’d have been blacklisted hundreds of times over 28 years already and be subjected to restraint of trade like the rest of us. Only a matter of time now.
Because hardly anyone understands how things used to be in this industry, they’re clueless as to the current dysfunction. Nobody is willing to take the time to explain this to them anyways. If they did most would not pay attention, so not even worth the time to publish the historical comparison of then vs now. Nobody would pay attention anyways, a pointless effort. Count the days and enjoy the time you have left with VA. Appraisal management companies and their partner lenders influence does not magically stop at the VA door. It has always only been a matter of time. When this next amc skates by without any real penalty, just like the last ones, they’ll be yet again, more emboldened then ever.
I don’t think the VA model is going to fold as easily as people think. Lenders might want everything pushed into the AMC pipeline, but the VA process keeps proving it works, and that is exactly why they keep running into resistance every time they try to force it into alignment. The pressure is real, but so is the pushback.
Only a tiny fraction of ROVs are ever valid. If people had to pay for the rest, the whole pile would disappear overnight.
You revealed the solution to the ROV problem. I always replied as follows:
“I was hired to provide MY opinion of value of the property and provided a report to support that opinion. I will be happy to review the data that you provided as a separate service for an additional fee. Call my office for a precise fee quote.”
I promise it works like a charm.
I worked inside the walls of one of these AMC’s for a very short time and in that time I saw stuff that should put people in jail. Instead they’re making millions. This exact thing happened to me. I turned in an assignment that the lender was unhappy about and therefore the AMC was unhappy. The VP let me know that we need to respond favorably to the client because we ‘are in a service’ business. I argued that the ROV had no substance and provided new sales information as required by Fannie and only argued against my value. I told him I wouldn’t consider it and he argued that it wasn’t my responsibility to police the format of the ROV. I screenshotted the entire conversation, turned it into my state board, and they did nothing. Everyone is cowed and I’m frankly sick of it. This doesn’t get solved at the Bureaucratic level. Lawsuits and Politicians get this fixed.
Many state appraisal boards do not even have a categorical entry place to list amc company penalties. Because it hardly ever happens.
Only four states are currently out of amc program compliance most for paperwork or one for penalties such as blacklisting an appraiser in violation of specific state law, yet no amc penalty is ever applied. Alabama, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Washington.
https://asc.gov/?state_id=50&state=NM
Perform an ASC amc advanced search. Research amc penalties on a national scale. Click advanced, find the select all button and select all states, then individually click the three suspension types, three national searches.
https://asc.gov/amc
Amc suspension records nationwide, all time – 25 records. Most suspensions come out of Florida, hardly anywhere else.
Amc revocation records nationwide, all time – 11 results. Every single one of them issued by the state of Florida and nowhere else, according to the ASC amc research tools.
I used quick search for Coester and there were only two inactive records There is not even a disciplinary action record on either profile both in Kentucky. Says good standing. Are they data scrubbing old records? Odd. Have the appraisal trade groups somehow become aligned with the amc industry?
One single state of the union ever revoked an amc? According to the ASC, yes that is the reality. Florida down the line. Because the amc licensing program is not an individual licensing program, that’s why the asc amc program fails to bring accountability.
Voluntary surrender has 38 results nationally all time but that’s mostly inconsequential. Probably are simply business dealings, consolidation, etc.
It’s good to want accountability and file the complaints. The reality is these complaints usually go nowhere.
Fill out the ASC website online appraisal complaint hotline referral; appraiser, violations of independence rules, amc type conventional work. One is merely routed in an automatic fashion to file a complaint at the state regulatory agency or the cfpb. People have been complaining for two decades. Amc’s exist in the nether, the in between places between clear regulatory authority. Banking regulators presume states provide the amc oversight. States are not always even able to force licensing, and they can only look at a limited range of activity. If states were to penalize the amc’s, they could face a downgrade of their positive ASC rating for amc oversight program compliance. Nobody wants that, to get a bad grade for your state licensing administration program. See how this works?
“AMCs were created to protect independence by inserting a buffer between lenders and appraisers.”
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Oh, puuuleeeeese, when was the ROV ever not pressure and or a veiled threat and or whatever? AMC’s were created to do exactly what they’re doing, nothing else.
Something else to add to your list of can’t say it or must say it … can’t wait for NAR’s and Fannie’s take on this. Welcome to more appraisal misery.
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