Please don’t get political. Stay professional.

Is the ceiling 12′ high in the closet, or 5′ in the upstairs bedroom?

Paced or stepped off are colloquialism’s counting’s rafter ends also worked or estimating the setbacks from the plot plan.

In the more popular States, we had National builders and published architects who advertised their products. On your lot builders advertised package deals including options. local builders worked with local agents who represented all and told all. National, and regional builders began spreading in the 1950’s and their plans were copied and advertised by local Realtors. The MLS began stabilizing using order and organization from the 1940 and forward, by the 1970s these MLSs began merging And then!

Read the Newspaper, make friends among the industry

“the first floor had about 5 ft, out of 40 feet, 5-foot length, the front, was 2 feet below grade, I did not count that entire area’s basement” So this tells you how slow things are now, I’ve spent most of my Sunday reading this dated post but I got the impression that you measured to ANSI standards? Your admission to not include the below-grade areas as a basement indicates otherwise!

“This nonsense will require specialized equipment and two people to measure the exterior of even a standard ranch house, given that bushes and other obstructions will need to be avoided (sometimes impossible), and someone will need to hold the target for the laser measuring tool, or a stand will have to be used, where both the target and laser are kept at the same height with respect to the walls of the house, to avoid losing or gaining inches due to angle.”

You are joking right? I have been measuring this way since 1994. I have had no problems with it at all. I am able to measure a “standard” ranch to an extremely com custom house alone. All of these obstructions have ALWAYS been around and it is easy to work around ESPECAILLY with laser measuring tools. This is where they really help, you dont have to go in the bushes nearly as much. I have always been able to hit some sort of target. Unless you are pointing the laser at a crazy angle you dont have to worry about “losing or gaining inches due to angle”. Besides the good lasers have a function that will give the level measurement at almost any angle you hold it on.

These four Appraisers Blogs responses are more accurate than most posts I have seen. GXX001 – commit to memory and create your CYA. Effective dispute would never hold up to reasonable scrutiny. This whole concept was about as reasonable as having an appraiser commit to “proper” water heater strapping. “operating condition” of a carbon monoxide alarm, or removing the word “apparent” from whether or not adverse environmental conditions exist. You show me a report reflecting a home with an 18.4″ wall and a total square footage of 2,411 square feet and I’ll show you two intentionally misleading errors.

The angle you’re holding the laser at matters, too.
And sometimes you have no decent line-of-sight directly to the opposite wall, this is especially true when doing outside measurements.

>This whole illogical approach of parsing size out in ways not recognized by the local mls, not recognized by local people, not recognized by the municipal building codes which the assessor prescribes, it’s all hogwash.

Exactly, and well stated.

You cannot adjust for something that nobody else is even measuring. There’s no data.

>So, they trespassed on private property to pace off the size of the comps?

Around here you could get shot doing that.

Many of the houses we do are in excess of 100 years old, the construction was barely measured at all, and most of the architecture was built by eyeballing the lengths and distances.
Still better construction than modern cardboard housing.

Completely true. The courthouse, the listing agents, none of them measure to this standard, and we’re lucky if they even measured walls accurately at all.

And it is insane to try and adjust for square footage that’s below 7 feet, anyway. What does the market think of sloping ceilings?…that you can generalize, but the market is not looking at specific square footage of below-7′ living area.

This nonsense will require specialized equipment and two people to measure the exterior of even a standard ranch house, given that bushes and other obstructions will need to be avoided (sometimes impossible), and someone will need to hold the target for the laser measuring tool, or a stand will have to be used, where both the target and laser are kept at the same height with respect to the walls of the house, to avoid losing or gaining inches due to angle.
And my notice on this stated condos were exempt from these standards…general appraisers opting themselves out of unreasonable requirements, while single-family appraisers are dumped on?

And does anyone’s market, out there, even use GLA as anything other than a general requirement to determine which houses they want to consider buying? Most markets do not consider much past a “small, medium, or large” house, just as they don’t consider the difference between a full acre parcel or a .9 acre.

Whoever is requiring this tripe has clearly never done this job before.

In all endeavors, some are duck footed, some are pigeon toed, our words, actions and intent identify us.

Van that’s only 3 verifies. Should be “5”or more as needed.
The seller’s, agent the buyer’s, agent the lender, the buyer, the seller, the county records, the water district, the drainage district, the Lake association, the Dock rights association, the leasing ownerships, etc.
Some properties are more complicated, some not so much so.
make sure you charge enough and do a complete appraisal, as stated in your contract.

Some states, counties, or parishes contract an overall appraisal every three to five years, by an independent appraiser. Some sell their non collectables as investments in a bidding process.
Did the one of the political parties talk about Federalizing the assessing housing or was that just a misconstruction?

https://appraisersblogs.com/solving-the-ansi-measuring-dilemma-a-simple-work-around#comment-34587

An effective workable solution.

Work the grid twice, print the first to pdf include in report.

On second round use directions provided to move adjusts, and only change the size of your subject in the interactive 1004.

You can make your subject ansi compliant without fiddling with confusing adjustments.

Because ANSI is counter productive, and represents a departure from otherwise already standardized approaches in many states. We don’t need another standard, it’s unacceptable for FNMA to push this without a voluntary opt out option. We should be following our local community standards and municipal guidelines.

If at any point ansi causes false net gross indicators, because you can make your subject ansi compliant, but are unable to do so with your comps, scrap your method and use mine instead.

Absolutely, totally and Completely AGREE. And now on to adjustments on these comparable! I am sure they will now be consistent! Right???

“The point of the sketch is to illustrate the efficiency of the floor plan and to point out YOUR interpretations for a basis of comparison.”

Well, with certain housing. Functional adjustments are impossible to prove except for unique circumstances, like the only bath is in a bed area or in another ancillary building, etc.

Space is space. It’s quite often adaptable. It’s either there or it’s not. The floorplan is understood by photos and the sketch does not need to be all that detailed.

The point of the sketch is to illustrate the efficiency of the floor plan and to point out YOUR interpretations for a basis of comparison. The problems with the in-acracy’s of the computer-generated sizes is that that only ONE side of the house is measured ” The appraiser did not square up his drawing. Did you see the crooked patterned linoleum flooring the Kit & Fam room?”, the converted Garage- bedroom or the elaborate outdoor summer kitchen.

Ken, these dudes showed up to this blog with consistently patronizing tones and dedicated efforts to spread liberal propaganda and industry supported corporate branding messages. Don’t mistake their participation for anything else.

That kind of junk does not happen in the lawn mowing industry. Without a man on the mower, there can be no lawn. Both the man and the mower must be flexible and have many many working options. Like they don’t mandate everyone use a ride on even if you’re just mowing an inch of lawn. These companies are promoting some pipe dream from their ivory towers, a complete industry wide standardization which only applies to value service, automation, replacement of the human appraiser.

I’ve been saying for a while now, there is no more such thing as residential housing. It’s all commercial, and regular home owners are now expected to compete with tycoons from around the world with billion dollar budgets whom buy residential housing on a wholesale level, often sight unseen. They want to run residential housing like some stock market.

The promotion of mandatory ANSI, hybrid, third party inspectors, reduced appraisal report content, waivers, just all of that, each is suspected to be a component of this larger effort. The appraisers are racist slander is simply another more complex component. These same groups do not apply the same logic to their friendly heads of the industry. This post;

https://appraisersblogs.com/violating-appraisal-independence-through-intimidation-coercion-n-harassment/#comment-34971

I do not think it helps to call your fellow appraisers lazy and incompetent. Most if not all of the appraisers I have met are hardworking and doing their best in a very tough environment. just my 2 cents worth..