Comments on: Tenant in Distress… What Would You Do?

By: CJK

CJK — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 05:27:38 +0000

“I realey don’t care if the agent is there or not.”

So, if the property is occupied by the owner or tenant but they are out of town on the day you want to do the inspection. You go into the property without the Relator or someone else with you? You better make sure your insurance covers you if they say that you damaged something or you took the $500 and Rolex that was on the dresser. Do you also go into the property if the only person at home is a 13-year-old?

“what do all you “agents have to be there” guys do on a refinance.”

The owner or the tenant lets me in. My issues is when the house if full of the occupants’ personal items, the agent knows that no one will be home and they do not want to meet me. It is not my responsibility to let myself into someone’s home. Do you understand now?

By: PJTMC

PJTMC — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 02:15:30 +0000

In reply to Baggins.

It reads the dwelling was being sold

By: Baggins

Baggins — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 02:10:22 +0000

In reply to Don Orttenburger.

There is no realty sales agent present in refinance scenarios.

By: Don Orttenburger

Don Orttenburger — Fri, 03 Feb 2023 01:09:39 +0000

I realey don’t care if the agent is there or not. And I wounder, what do all you “agents have to be there” guys do on a refinance. I do my inspection without any inpute from the agent but am happy to review any information they want to provide. I do alot of sketchy neighborhoods in Detroit (most homes burned out or vacant lots) for one client (all drive-bys-appraiser drive bys that is) that said they had a problem with finding appraisers that would go to those neighborhoods. I advised them that I have met some of the nicest folks in those neighborhoods and that I do shoot back. This is not a macho thing, just a situational awarness thing based on my training. I have 32 years in the business and over 15,000 appraisals.

By: Baggins

Baggins — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 22:50:11 +0000

In reply to CJK.

That’s right. Don’t volunteer to perform the realtors job portions for them, for free of charge. The agents have totally different insurance than appraisers too. That’s going around lately, this notion that everything should be automated. It’s all bad news, adjust your schedule, wait in line, or just tell your client they’ve put you the appraiser on hold due to their own scheduling conflicts and non availability. One call from the mortgage broker, suddenly the realty agent becomes available, on your schedule too. Happens every time. It’s better that way because quite often these excuses are just that, and the order is on the edge of being cancelled so why bother. When I hear non availability I instantly presume there is an underlying problem or some borrower hesitance and the order is likely to get cancelled. Just run with that sort of presumption instead. You should only deal with lockboxes for under construction, vacant, or repossessed units.

By: CJK

CJK — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 22:29:46 +0000

I will not go into occupied properties by myself. When I first started in 1983 most of the agents measured the home, showed up for the appraisal and had a packet of information. Now I cannot even get some of them to show up for the appraisal. Conversely some agents are very helpful, professional and respectful. I have seen some strange things on inspection, and I have called to let others know. We also have the Good Samaritan Law .

By: PJTMC

PJTMC — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 20:08:21 +0000

Without a doubt, if your safety is in question (and it appears it could have been) refuse the assignment or, at the very least, insist that someone meet you at the property as well as ensure the tenant has vacated if his or her mental stability is at questions. It is not the appraiser’s responsibility to enter into a compromising situation and risk their wellbeing. That said and having not been done, I would have left the dwelling immediately, called the realtor and advise they contact the police for a wellness check. Seems the humane and right thing to do. You don’t get paid enough to risk your life (especially in today’s world).

By: Don Orttenburger

Don Orttenburger — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 18:45:00 +0000

This was not an appraisal question. It is a humanity question. If you were simply walking down the street and found someone in distress, what would you do-you would call the authorities. I think sometimes we have to put aside our license responsabilities and apply our human responsabilities. Just remember, you were a member of the human race before you were an appraiser. As for AMC directions to the contrary-the hell with them.

By: Jaydee

Jaydee — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 18:38:04 +0000

Tough one, the home was occupied by a tenant that “might be” present? The appraiser did everything right. Lucky the furry one’s didn’t attack. In the end again, the appraiser did the right thing.

Make sure either the tenants home or the home is indeed vacant. Appraiser could have been shot by the distressed drunk. No easy answers here.

By: Bill Johnson

Bill Johnson — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 15:31:55 +0000

Thank you to the emergency service personnel who provided assistance. On a side note, if it was an AMC order, I wonder if the appraiser looked through the 48 page engagement letter to look for guidance. If on site and blank happens, “please contact the AMC for guidance”.

Seek the truth and never be afraid to help those in need.

By: Baggins

Baggins — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 14:36:11 +0000

Yet another reason to always insist when homes are occupied, someone be there to meet and greet with you, let you in, and walk you through the property. This is an agent side duty which the appraiser should not accept responsibility for.