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		By: don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2021 01:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31700&quot;&gt;E J Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

Can the appraiser condition  the terms of the sale by Reconditioning the house, and including the HOA dues for a year or two, buy-down the mortgage rate for the buyer, accepting the smelly cesspool, erecting a sound barrier between the r/r way yards.   That&#039;s the way several of the closed sales strengthened their prices.
As is v as proposed  will make a difference But will the lender allow it.  Who is your client?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31700">E J Brown</a>.</p>
<p>Can the appraiser condition  the terms of the sale by Reconditioning the house, and including the HOA dues for a year or two, buy-down the mortgage rate for the buyer, accepting the smelly cesspool, erecting a sound barrier between the r/r way yards.   That&#8217;s the way several of the closed sales strengthened their prices.<br />
As is v as proposed  will make a difference But will the lender allow it.  Who is your client?</p>
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		By: Bryan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2021 18:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Time for an extended vacation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for an extended vacation.</p>
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		By: don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31699&quot;&gt;Seneca&lt;/a&gt;.

Did you ever get your faced slapped, maybe you didn&#039;t date a classy enough girl.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31699">Seneca</a>.</p>
<p>Did you ever get your faced slapped, maybe you didn&#8217;t date a classy enough girl.</p>
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		By: Cathy L Harper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy L Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31708&quot;&gt;Bill Johnson&lt;/a&gt;.

Please find better verbiage. YOU did not &quot;CUT VALUE&quot;.]]></description>
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<p>Please find better verbiage. YOU did not &#8220;CUT VALUE&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Cathy L Harper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy L Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31706&quot;&gt;Mike Ford, American Guild of Appraisers (AGA™)&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree. Verbiage needs to change!! We offer an OPINION .. 
 This is more of us perpetuating the BAD APPRAISER garbage]]></description>
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<p>I agree. Verbiage needs to change!! We offer an OPINION ..<br />
 This is more of us perpetuating the BAD APPRAISER garbage</p>
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		By: don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31713&quot;&gt;Baggins&lt;/a&gt;.

The markets always in FLUX, Use all your tools at estimating the value. Remember demand v supply is always critical. Our MLS&#039;s provide wonderful features to illustrate our positions.

Define the problem first; is it todays estimate, or tomorrows.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31713">Baggins</a>.</p>
<p>The markets always in FLUX, Use all your tools at estimating the value. Remember demand v supply is always critical. Our MLS&#8217;s provide wonderful features to illustrate our positions.</p>
<p>Define the problem first; is it todays estimate, or tomorrows.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31704&quot;&gt;Joe&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s a clever marketing play from a flat rate realty company.  It&#039;s an easy read and good for new people.

10.  Blame incompetent realty for both listing too high, and the buyers agent for walking a buyer in too high without proper price negotiation.  If you have to find a new lender, it&#039;s probably a good idea to find a new realty agent too. 

Where I&#039;m at buyers are falling over each other for a buy, they&#039;re coming with 50k cash over value up front in contractual terms.  The thing is, they&#039;re all coming here from NY and CA, moving stacks of cash.  It would not be surprising the other side of that coin is falling expectations in big cities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31704">Joe</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a clever marketing play from a flat rate realty company.  It&#8217;s an easy read and good for new people.</p>
<p>10.  Blame incompetent realty for both listing too high, and the buyers agent for walking a buyer in too high without proper price negotiation.  If you have to find a new lender, it&#8217;s probably a good idea to find a new realty agent too. </p>
<p>Where I&#8217;m at buyers are falling over each other for a buy, they&#8217;re coming with 50k cash over value up front in contractual terms.  The thing is, they&#8217;re all coming here from NY and CA, moving stacks of cash.  It would not be surprising the other side of that coin is falling expectations in big cities.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, American Guild of Appraisers (AGA™)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, American Guild of Appraisers (AGA™)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2021 21:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31700&quot;&gt;E J Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

I have.

Often involves appraisers making rote adjustments and not following many other appraisal principles as well.

Fortunately its rare-relatively. Its more frequent in divorces, or estate tax appraisals. Lets not pretend it doesn&#039;t exist.

I don&#039;t like the way CoreLogic bandies the term around either. Its misleading. Their metric for determining high or low appraisal is also infantile and amateurishly facile.

BUT sometimes appraisals do come in lower than market value. When they do, it needs to be acknowledged. Corrected if possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31700">E J Brown</a>.</p>
<p>I have.</p>
<p>Often involves appraisers making rote adjustments and not following many other appraisal principles as well.</p>
<p>Fortunately its rare-relatively. Its more frequent in divorces, or estate tax appraisals. Lets not pretend it doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the way CoreLogic bandies the term around either. Its misleading. Their metric for determining high or low appraisal is also infantile and amateurishly facile.</p>
<p>BUT sometimes appraisals do come in lower than market value. When they do, it needs to be acknowledged. Corrected if possible.</p>
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		By: Bill Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2021 18:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Want to hear a true story?

Considering in the past 7 days I&#039;ve cut value by over $1,000,000 (purchase price / appraised value) this article is good timing (one was by $350,000). It normally goes like this, the property is listed by the agent ($1,200,000 to $1,250,000), and then gets bid up by $100,000+ when every offer states they will beat any other offer by $10,000. It sounds like a fun game that every one gets to play and yes every party knows the truth, but the real truth is that the appraiser gets screwed out of time and money both during the initial process, and post process (Tidewater / Reconsideration of value, etc.). 

Considering the author states &quot;Very rarely. Since we started NestApple in 2017, we have not seen or even heard a single instance&quot;, I&#039;m glad this shitshow of a process serves no other purpose then to waste millions of manhours from the appraisers over the decades. 

Seeking the truth, knowing the truth, and then lying to the appraiser about how you think the value is $100,000 higher from 3 days prior (DOM), what a bunch of puppets on strings we are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to hear a true story?</p>
<p>Considering in the past 7 days I&#8217;ve cut value by over $1,000,000 (purchase price / appraised value) this article is good timing (one was by $350,000). It normally goes like this, the property is listed by the agent ($1,200,000 to $1,250,000), and then gets bid up by $100,000+ when every offer states they will beat any other offer by $10,000. It sounds like a fun game that every one gets to play and yes every party knows the truth, but the real truth is that the appraiser gets screwed out of time and money both during the initial process, and post process (Tidewater / Reconsideration of value, etc.). </p>
<p>Considering the author states &#8220;Very rarely. Since we started NestApple in 2017, we have not seen or even heard a single instance&#8221;, I&#8217;m glad this shitshow of a process serves no other purpose then to waste millions of manhours from the appraisers over the decades. </p>
<p>Seeking the truth, knowing the truth, and then lying to the appraiser about how you think the value is $100,000 higher from 3 days prior (DOM), what a bunch of puppets on strings we are.</p>
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		By: don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2021 21:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31706&quot;&gt;Mike Ford, American Guild of Appraisers (AGA™)&lt;/a&gt;.

And in the 1930s thru the 50s Realtors sold properties with contracts of sale which were still available thru the 1970s what a mess that was. The C.A.R. campaigned against those contracts and many were found Illegal.

Just think when those tranches of trust deeds bought by the Chinese several years ago are taken back to china in foreclosure, what will our politician do?. The Japanese had all those trophy properties and they had to leave them here in the good old USA.

The Chinese are having financial problems and those bonds and investments are not as popular as they were. IS ANY of your retirement involved?

My experience was in appraising only for 57 years in California, Arizona, New Mexico &#038; Nevada, some of those years I had a brokers license some I had an appraisers license. Many years no license was required]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31706">Mike Ford, American Guild of Appraisers (AGA™)</a>.</p>
<p>And in the 1930s thru the 50s Realtors sold properties with contracts of sale which were still available thru the 1970s what a mess that was. The C.A.R. campaigned against those contracts and many were found Illegal.</p>
<p>Just think when those tranches of trust deeds bought by the Chinese several years ago are taken back to china in foreclosure, what will our politician do?. The Japanese had all those trophy properties and they had to leave them here in the good old USA.</p>
<p>The Chinese are having financial problems and those bonds and investments are not as popular as they were. IS ANY of your retirement involved?</p>
<p>My experience was in appraising only for 57 years in California, Arizona, New Mexico &amp; Nevada, some of those years I had a brokers license some I had an appraisers license. Many years no license was required</p>
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		By: George Benoliel on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Benoliel on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2021 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31706&quot;&gt;Mike Ford, American Guild of Appraisers (AGA™)&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you!]]></description>
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<p>Thank you!</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, American Guild of Appraisers (AGA™)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2021 20:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stop quibbling over the term low. Author explained low relative to the contract price. Not derogatorily low. 

Its a well written article. The one other step the author left out was going back to the seller and asking them to finance the shortage or gap amount.

Afterall, THEY are the ones that priced the property above it&#039;s supportable market value. Second Mortgages or deeds of trust were common in the 1950&#039;s and 1960&#039;s before conventional 90%-95% loans became widespread.

Sellers can carry the paper themselves OR they can immediately discount it (say 50% for a new unseasoned 2nd TD) and sell it to investors that specialize in them.

The article attempted to intelligently explain options OTHER than attacking the appraisers through regulators. We should (IMHO) support authors who make the effort to educate sellers and buyers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop quibbling over the term low. Author explained low relative to the contract price. Not derogatorily low. </p>
<p>Its a well written article. The one other step the author left out was going back to the seller and asking them to finance the shortage or gap amount.</p>
<p>Afterall, THEY are the ones that priced the property above it&#8217;s supportable market value. Second Mortgages or deeds of trust were common in the 1950&#8217;s and 1960&#8217;s before conventional 90%-95% loans became widespread.</p>
<p>Sellers can carry the paper themselves OR they can immediately discount it (say 50% for a new unseasoned 2nd TD) and sell it to investors that specialize in them.</p>
<p>The article attempted to intelligently explain options OTHER than attacking the appraisers through regulators. We should (IMHO) support authors who make the effort to educate sellers and buyers.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2021 19:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So someone in Wall Street for the last 17 years and hedge funds wants to discuss appraisals because he has a “disruptive innovation” in real estate. Leave appraisal to appraisers. The premise of this article belongs on mortgage or broker website, not appraisal. The objectives of the author (advocate for price) vs appraisers (advocate for market value) are fundamentally different. We must hold ourselves up to a higher standard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So someone in Wall Street for the last 17 years and hedge funds wants to discuss appraisals because he has a “disruptive innovation” in real estate. Leave appraisal to appraisers. The premise of this article belongs on mortgage or broker website, not appraisal. The objectives of the author (advocate for price) vs appraisers (advocate for market value) are fundamentally different. We must hold ourselves up to a higher standard.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2021 18:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31701&quot;&gt;John M Pratt&lt;/a&gt;.

Is their such a thing as an OVER listing which has been reduced 5 times, still with no interest? Is their such a thing as a low sale which sold to a relative? Does anybody verify?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/what-if-the-appraisal-comes-in-too-low-contesting-a-low-appraisal/#comment-31701">John M Pratt</a>.</p>
<p>Is their such a thing as an OVER listing which has been reduced 5 times, still with no interest? Is their such a thing as a low sale which sold to a relative? Does anybody verify?</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is no such thing as a &quot;Low Appraisal&quot;. The appraised value is the appraisers opinion of the market value of the property based on his/her research and analysis. There are Sale (contract) prices to high or to low. Most potential buyers in the market have no idea of the value of the home they are making an offer on, they rely on the broker to protect them. It is the appraisers job to provide the &quot;Lender&quot; with an accurate market value for the lenders protection and the appraiser has no obligation to the potential buyer or seller. Maybe the listing price was to high.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as a &#8220;Low Appraisal&#8221;. The appraised value is the appraisers opinion of the market value of the property based on his/her research and analysis. There are Sale (contract) prices to high or to low. Most potential buyers in the market have no idea of the value of the home they are making an offer on, they rely on the broker to protect them. It is the appraisers job to provide the &#8220;Lender&#8221; with an accurate market value for the lenders protection and the appraiser has no obligation to the potential buyer or seller. Maybe the listing price was to high.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E J Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never seen a low appraisal. It is what it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never seen a low appraisal. It is what it is.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seneca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Approaches are Irrelevant.]]></description>
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