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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2020 15:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/was-the-fast-n-cheap-amc-appraiser-racist-pressured-or-unqualified-biggest-snowball/#comment-30698&quot;&gt;J Hamilton&lt;/a&gt;.

http://appraisersblogs.com/consolidated-analytics-amc-fined-4-appraisal-order-blast-violation#comment-30677

The coordinated abuse of appraisers by profiteering corporations continues.  This is a fine example of well coordinated commercial scale racketeering and the infiltration of regulatory bodies by companies seeking biased judgments in their favor so they can continue the systematic dismantling and abuse of an entire industry consisting of over 80,000 actually licensed persons.  

This effects everyone but there is adequate relief if appraisers simply refuse all amc orders and find better clients.  The more appraisers that do that, the more lenders move back to direct assignment processes.

&quot;What&#039;s your fee and turn time?&quot;   Me:  I don&#039;t know.  What&#039;s YOURS?   

It is irony that the appraiser, the person tasked with analyzing deals and sales, terms and conditions, to evaulate financial fairness, to stand up against some of the most aggressive sales persons in this country....  That that same appraiser person is unable to get around rinky dink nobody telecom based amc desk jockies who&#039;s only sales pitch is what&#039;s your fee and turn time.  The amc industry has shaped up to be a safe haven for all the wash outs, remarkable.  Amc appraisers should hang it up, they&#039;re worthless from the beginning, never even made it out of the gate.  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/was-the-fast-n-cheap-amc-appraiser-racist-pressured-or-unqualified-biggest-snowball/#comment-30698">J Hamilton</a>.</p>
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<p>The coordinated abuse of appraisers by profiteering corporations continues.  This is a fine example of well coordinated commercial scale racketeering and the infiltration of regulatory bodies by companies seeking biased judgments in their favor so they can continue the systematic dismantling and abuse of an entire industry consisting of over 80,000 actually licensed persons.  </p>
<p>This effects everyone but there is adequate relief if appraisers simply refuse all amc orders and find better clients.  The more appraisers that do that, the more lenders move back to direct assignment processes.</p>
<p>&#8220;What&#8217;s your fee and turn time?&#8221;   Me:  I don&#8217;t know.  What&#8217;s YOURS?   </p>
<p>It is irony that the appraiser, the person tasked with analyzing deals and sales, terms and conditions, to evaulate financial fairness, to stand up against some of the most aggressive sales persons in this country&#8230;.  That that same appraiser person is unable to get around rinky dink nobody telecom based amc desk jockies who&#8217;s only sales pitch is what&#8217;s your fee and turn time.  The amc industry has shaped up to be a safe haven for all the wash outs, remarkable.  Amc appraisers should hang it up, they&#8217;re worthless from the beginning, never even made it out of the gate.  </p>
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		By: J Hamilton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2020 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/was-the-fast-n-cheap-amc-appraiser-racist-pressured-or-unqualified-biggest-snowball/#comment-30682&quot;&gt;JC&lt;/a&gt;.

Anybody have copies of both appraisals?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/was-the-fast-n-cheap-amc-appraiser-racist-pressured-or-unqualified-biggest-snowball/#comment-30682">JC</a>.</p>
<p>Anybody have copies of both appraisals?</p>
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		By: J Hamilton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At the end of the day there is an appraiser out there who will work for 100 bucks regardless of the fact that they could net more with less liability working at Amazon/Burger King. Just say no which, somehow always leads to the argument for AVM, part of which is that it results in higher fees to the consumer but they are paying the higher fee anyway, it is just not the appraiser who benefits. This train left the station in the 1990s and not one single trade organization to my knowledge has resisted. Another issue is the big shops who get the order, several a day, send out the trainee, or whoever, to do the inspection. They take the small fee, give some to the inspector, a little to the processor and pocket the rest. Pocket 100 a day x what maybe 10 deals and all good. My point here is that we have allowed this to go on and it will continue until the majority of appraisers just stop and demand just compensation for their work. Sadly my guess is that will not happen, all the old guard will retire and the AVM will become the norm. That my friends is exactly Corelogics business plan. Realtors, you are next, Corelogic/Zillow/Amazon or a new player will rollout a Nationwide MLS utilizing the UAD format, any licensed real estate agent/individual property owner can participate, and as have the appraisers, the RE agent will work for much lower fees but gladly accept the days pay. Good luck all, the business was fun and profitable while it lasted. P.S. when was your last order to Forms &#038; Worms?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day there is an appraiser out there who will work for 100 bucks regardless of the fact that they could net more with less liability working at Amazon/Burger King. Just say no which, somehow always leads to the argument for AVM, part of which is that it results in higher fees to the consumer but they are paying the higher fee anyway, it is just not the appraiser who benefits. This train left the station in the 1990s and not one single trade organization to my knowledge has resisted. Another issue is the big shops who get the order, several a day, send out the trainee, or whoever, to do the inspection. They take the small fee, give some to the inspector, a little to the processor and pocket the rest. Pocket 100 a day x what maybe 10 deals and all good. My point here is that we have allowed this to go on and it will continue until the majority of appraisers just stop and demand just compensation for their work. Sadly my guess is that will not happen, all the old guard will retire and the AVM will become the norm. That my friends is exactly Corelogics business plan. Realtors, you are next, Corelogic/Zillow/Amazon or a new player will rollout a Nationwide MLS utilizing the UAD format, any licensed real estate agent/individual property owner can participate, and as have the appraisers, the RE agent will work for much lower fees but gladly accept the days pay. Good luck all, the business was fun and profitable while it lasted. P.S. when was your last order to Forms &amp; Worms?</p>
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		By: ej		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/was-the-fast-n-cheap-amc-appraiser-racist-pressured-or-unqualified-biggest-snowball/#comment-30685&quot;&gt;Realrose&lt;/a&gt;.

Has anyone checked out PAREA? This will drive down fees even further. The only way to stop this is a class-action lawsuit against all involved, including TAF. I would join the guild if they were able to get a Law Firm involved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/was-the-fast-n-cheap-amc-appraiser-racist-pressured-or-unqualified-biggest-snowball/#comment-30685">Realrose</a>.</p>
<p>Has anyone checked out PAREA? This will drive down fees even further. The only way to stop this is a class-action lawsuit against all involved, including TAF. I would join the guild if they were able to get a Law Firm involved.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2020 17:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/was-the-fast-n-cheap-amc-appraiser-racist-pressured-or-unqualified-biggest-snowball/#comment-30688&quot;&gt;GAPeach&lt;/a&gt;.

She says she is getting a refinance to pay off her loan sooner and get more equity out of her home. How is getting more equity out of her home going to help her pay off her loan sooner???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/was-the-fast-n-cheap-amc-appraiser-racist-pressured-or-unqualified-biggest-snowball/#comment-30688">GAPeach</a>.</p>
<p>She says she is getting a refinance to pay off her loan sooner and get more equity out of her home. How is getting more equity out of her home going to help her pay off her loan sooner???</p>
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		By: Advocate		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2020 11:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The only ‘perceived’ benefit of an amc is to the lender. The fee to the amc should be paid by the lender, not the consumer or taken from an appraisal fee. Does the consumer get charged if a lender uses a third party for escrow of taxes and insurance? No, they do not. The amc is no different. This would eliminate many of the issues there are now. Most lenders would bring back appraisal management in house.

It should be mentioned when the market tanks, these amcs will be history. They are going to be exposed to all the liability as they ordered, reviewed and paid the appraiser. Appraisers can easily redirect that attention.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only ‘perceived’ benefit of an amc is to the lender. The fee to the amc should be paid by the lender, not the consumer or taken from an appraisal fee. Does the consumer get charged if a lender uses a third party for escrow of taxes and insurance? No, they do not. The amc is no different. This would eliminate many of the issues there are now. Most lenders would bring back appraisal management in house.</p>
<p>It should be mentioned when the market tanks, these amcs will be history. They are going to be exposed to all the liability as they ordered, reviewed and paid the appraiser. Appraisers can easily redirect that attention.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2020 04:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The inter racial couple story crying racism is making rounds in different news outlets. It was covered on Good Morning America by Diane Sawyer&#039;s report about Race in Real Estate. Because the louder the lie, the persistence of its dissemination, the more accepted the lie will be viewed as the (accepted) truth. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3YGp4l4qGA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The inter racial couple story crying racism is making rounds in different news outlets. It was covered on Good Morning America by Diane Sawyer&#8217;s report about Race in Real Estate. Because the louder the lie, the persistence of its dissemination, the more accepted the lie will be viewed as the (accepted) truth. </p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2020 22:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But yet there are those amongst who coach the acceptance of the AMC model, and even more who drink the Kool-Aid of the same principle. As I&#039;ve said many times before, AMC&#039;s are like welfare, in that some may need them in the beginning, but when appraisers build a business off such an abusive structure, I have a real problem. 

Question those who put profits before principle all while trying to point the finger away from themselves.

Go make up a value, change your password often, and remember to seek the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But yet there are those amongst who coach the acceptance of the AMC model, and even more who drink the Kool-Aid of the same principle. As I&#8217;ve said many times before, AMC&#8217;s are like welfare, in that some may need them in the beginning, but when appraisers build a business off such an abusive structure, I have a real problem. </p>
<p>Question those who put profits before principle all while trying to point the finger away from themselves.</p>
<p>Go make up a value, change your password often, and remember to seek the truth.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/was-the-fast-n-cheap-amc-appraiser-racist-pressured-or-unqualified-biggest-snowball/#comment-30679&quot;&gt;Ronny on Twitter&lt;/a&gt;.

If you want to know what really happened to our profession, please read &quot;Dispatches from the Cosmic Cobra Breeding Farm&quot;, by Jeremy Bagott.  It explains how USPAP got copyrighted by the Appraisal Foundation, and although it is government sanctioned, we have to pay for a copy of the law because TAF owns it. The Appraisal Institute wrote it as Standards of Professional Practice, and it morphed into USPAP, so now we pay to take this class and buy an electronic copy of the law every 2 years when we renew our licenses. They are a cobra breeding farm and you will learn all about that leach organization that was created to cheat a whole profession out of what we deserve as fair, professional fees for doing an unbiased valuation of property for what used to be a bank who kept the loan. Now that they sell loans in packages they don&#039;t care about the quality of the appraisal and we are competing with realtors who think they are appraisers after a short course, and AVMs actually have credibility, thanks to the fake news by people who don&#039;t appraise write.  We lost control of our profession, and what makes me embarrassed and ashamed is that it took a British guy to research this problem and write this book.  I haven&#039;t seen anything this good about our profession, ever. Every day I think about the good old days when appraisers got respect for their education and experience. Licensing watered down the process. The AI is no longer serving its members and now we have AMC leeches all over our bodies, with the octopus TAF wrapping its tentacles all over that, and it is getting harder to just appraise, let alone follow the ugly politics that have crept into our profession.  Of course they had to make up a story that was untrue to sully our reputations. We certify in each appraisal that we are non-biased and objective, and we carry insurance and pay for data that is crappy, and forms that suit the guys that generate the need for more mortgage securities.  Well, they aren&#039;t secure without our profession doing our jobs, and I would say most of the appraisers I have known were objective and not racially prejudiced.  Yes, those were the old days.  Now read this book and see what happened while you were appraising with handcuffs on your wrists, behind your back with USPAP on your neck!  It is short and very well-written!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/was-the-fast-n-cheap-amc-appraiser-racist-pressured-or-unqualified-biggest-snowball/#comment-30679">Ronny on Twitter</a>.</p>
<p>If you want to know what really happened to our profession, please read &#8220;Dispatches from the Cosmic Cobra Breeding Farm&#8221;, by Jeremy Bagott.  It explains how USPAP got copyrighted by the Appraisal Foundation, and although it is government sanctioned, we have to pay for a copy of the law because TAF owns it. The Appraisal Institute wrote it as Standards of Professional Practice, and it morphed into USPAP, so now we pay to take this class and buy an electronic copy of the law every 2 years when we renew our licenses. They are a cobra breeding farm and you will learn all about that leach organization that was created to cheat a whole profession out of what we deserve as fair, professional fees for doing an unbiased valuation of property for what used to be a bank who kept the loan. Now that they sell loans in packages they don&#8217;t care about the quality of the appraisal and we are competing with realtors who think they are appraisers after a short course, and AVMs actually have credibility, thanks to the fake news by people who don&#8217;t appraise write.  We lost control of our profession, and what makes me embarrassed and ashamed is that it took a British guy to research this problem and write this book.  I haven&#8217;t seen anything this good about our profession, ever. Every day I think about the good old days when appraisers got respect for their education and experience. Licensing watered down the process. The AI is no longer serving its members and now we have AMC leeches all over our bodies, with the octopus TAF wrapping its tentacles all over that, and it is getting harder to just appraise, let alone follow the ugly politics that have crept into our profession.  Of course they had to make up a story that was untrue to sully our reputations. We certify in each appraisal that we are non-biased and objective, and we carry insurance and pay for data that is crappy, and forms that suit the guys that generate the need for more mortgage securities.  Well, they aren&#8217;t secure without our profession doing our jobs, and I would say most of the appraisers I have known were objective and not racially prejudiced.  Yes, those were the old days.  Now read this book and see what happened while you were appraising with handcuffs on your wrists, behind your back with USPAP on your neck!  It is short and very well-written!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Skap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You also forgot to include how amcs take money, fail to pay appraisers and go out of business. How they have contracts with lenders so that they themselves collect the money from the borrower and since the lender didn’t touch the money the lender is off the hook when they go out of business.   Along these lines the borrower is paying a premium to the AMC who they think is the actual appraisal company as well.   Think of all the money not paid to appraisers from the likes of now out of business AMCS like appraisal loft, Coester and others.   There are so many other things that are wrong with the current model the way it is especially when it comes to the fairy tale mythical being known as Customary and Reasonable fees etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You also forgot to include how amcs take money, fail to pay appraisers and go out of business. How they have contracts with lenders so that they themselves collect the money from the borrower and since the lender didn’t touch the money the lender is off the hook when they go out of business.   Along these lines the borrower is paying a premium to the AMC who they think is the actual appraisal company as well.   Think of all the money not paid to appraisers from the likes of now out of business AMCS like appraisal loft, Coester and others.   There are so many other things that are wrong with the current model the way it is especially when it comes to the fairy tale mythical being known as Customary and Reasonable fees etc.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Recently there have been numerous posting of an inter-racial couple in Florida that has publically cried racism because the appraised value did not come in where expected. A second appraisal was ordered after removing all signs of race from the home and the value came in where anticipated. Now this story has been discredited as the women in the story is the VP, General Counsel for Black Knight and it was a publicity stunt to encourage automated values; but what if there was some truth to the story and the appraisal was ordered through an appraisal management company? Would the fast and cheap amc appraiser be a racist or just an unqualified appraiser?&quot;

In all likelihood the second appraiser was pressured for value]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Recently there have been numerous posting of an inter-racial couple in Florida that has publically cried racism because the appraised value did not come in where expected. A second appraisal was ordered after removing all signs of race from the home and the value came in where anticipated. Now this story has been discredited as the women in the story is the VP, General Counsel for Black Knight and it was a publicity stunt to encourage automated values; but what if there was some truth to the story and the appraisal was ordered through an appraisal management company? Would the fast and cheap amc appraiser be a racist or just an unqualified appraiser?&#8221;</p>
<p>In all likelihood the second appraiser was pressured for value</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Exactly what I have been saying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly what I have been saying.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2020 15:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agree 1000%! Great write-up Milton]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree 1000%! Great write-up Milton</p>
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		By: Ronny on Twitter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronny on Twitter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2020 14:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[amc&#039;s are a joke like prostitues looking for a john ...the larger question is who and what paid to propagate such perceptions of our profession?...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amc&#8217;s are a joke like prostitues looking for a john &#8230;the larger question is who and what paid to propagate such perceptions of our profession?&#8230;</p>
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