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		By: Wayne Courtney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Courtney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2019 21:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OH, Gee....AMCs tell licensed and certified appraiser how to sing and dance! The AMC has become the BMFIC of the appraisal industry. What would happen if the average, typical day to day appraiser told them to bite a fat hog in the ass? I mean...those of us that are appraisers choose to work in another part of the appraisal industry? They would SCREAM, THEY WOULD HOLLOW while they headed to the bankrupt fields of this business. Honestly...there IS NO WAY IN HELL that they can survive without your typical appraiser hitting his knees. YOU are pimping them to success....If you stop...they crash! Just a fact!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, Gee&#8230;.AMCs tell licensed and certified appraiser how to sing and dance! The AMC has become the BMFIC of the appraisal industry. What would happen if the average, typical day to day appraiser told them to bite a fat hog in the ass? I mean&#8230;those of us that are appraisers choose to work in another part of the appraisal industry? They would SCREAM, THEY WOULD HOLLOW while they headed to the bankrupt fields of this business. Honestly&#8230;there IS NO WAY IN HELL that they can survive without your typical appraiser hitting his knees. YOU are pimping them to success&#8230;.If you stop&#8230;they crash! Just a fact!</p>
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		By: Bill Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 14:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26588&quot;&gt;Bobby Jones on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed.

Seek the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26588">Bobby Jones on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>Seek the truth.</p>
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		By: Bobby Jones on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Jones on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2019 04:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26582&quot;&gt;Bill Johnson&lt;/a&gt;.

I was agreeing with you.. amcs are a plague on this industry..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26582">Bill Johnson</a>.</p>
<p>I was agreeing with you.. amcs are a plague on this industry..</p>
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		By: Bill Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2019 16:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26562&quot;&gt;Bobby Jones on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

What is wrong Bobby with my statement? The fact that it took me 17 years of hard work to get approved with the VA? The fact that even with TRUE inflation I net less today compared to 20+ years ago? Please elaborate?

Seek the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26562">Bobby Jones on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>What is wrong Bobby with my statement? The fact that it took me 17 years of hard work to get approved with the VA? The fact that even with TRUE inflation I net less today compared to 20+ years ago? Please elaborate?</p>
<p>Seek the truth.</p>
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		By: Rick Daniel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Daniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2019 14:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Appraisers are eminently qualified to flip houses. Use your knowledge to increase your income.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appraisers are eminently qualified to flip houses. Use your knowledge to increase your income.</p>
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		By: David Samnick on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Samnick on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2019 03:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26564&quot;&gt;Bobby Jones on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

Bobby Jones I’m going on yr 20 in this profession. I attempted to diversify with Matterport 3D virtual tours and RE photography but have not had much success as of yet. I have no idea what I could do that would equal the money I currently make. It’s angering, frustrating and sickening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26564">Bobby Jones on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>Bobby Jones I’m going on yr 20 in this profession. I attempted to diversify with Matterport 3D virtual tours and RE photography but have not had much success as of yet. I have no idea what I could do that would equal the money I currently make. It’s angering, frustrating and sickening.</p>
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		By: Bobby Jones on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Jones on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2019 03:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26512&quot;&gt;David Samnick on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

David Samnick my thoughts exactly...1004p will put most of us out of business. This is shit... what do we all plan on doing. I do not have a back up plan..]]></description>
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<p>David Samnick my thoughts exactly&#8230;1004p will put most of us out of business. This is shit&#8230; what do we all plan on doing. I do not have a back up plan..</p>
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		By: Bobby Jones on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Jones on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2019 03:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26501&quot;&gt;Mark Skapinetz.&lt;/a&gt;.

hybrids are shit]]></description>
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<p>hybrids are shit</p>
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		By: Bobby Jones on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobby Jones on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2019 03:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26504&quot;&gt;E J Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

That is what is wrong with the industry]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26504">E J Brown</a>.</p>
<p>That is what is wrong with the industry</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2019 18:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26500&quot;&gt;SB&lt;/a&gt;.

Right before Coester published their national fee trends data many years ago, I observed that although all my other in web fees were still as I had set them, the FHA fee was suddenly $275. Somehow they over rode appraisers entered fees.

Enter your own fee is codeword for who wants to show the most advocacy, because cost savings from reduced cost appraisal services will not be returned to the borrowing consumer but rather will be held as a variable economic incentive to be the preferred assignee, contrary to the appraisers management rule and fair billing principals. When you discount and the consumer does not save, you have provided a thing of value in a pay to play environment.

If management companies don&#039;t know what a fair fee is by now, and can not present a fair fee up front in a direct assignment scenario, respectable appraisers simply can&#039;t help them. If you&#039;re an appraiser and are still playing those bidding games, you&#039;re part of the problem not the solution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26500">SB</a>.</p>
<p>Right before Coester published their national fee trends data many years ago, I observed that although all my other in web fees were still as I had set them, the FHA fee was suddenly $275. Somehow they over rode appraisers entered fees.</p>
<p>Enter your own fee is codeword for who wants to show the most advocacy, because cost savings from reduced cost appraisal services will not be returned to the borrowing consumer but rather will be held as a variable economic incentive to be the preferred assignee, contrary to the appraisers management rule and fair billing principals. When you discount and the consumer does not save, you have provided a thing of value in a pay to play environment.</p>
<p>If management companies don&#8217;t know what a fair fee is by now, and can not present a fair fee up front in a direct assignment scenario, respectable appraisers simply can&#8217;t help them. If you&#8217;re an appraiser and are still playing those bidding games, you&#8217;re part of the problem not the solution.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2019 18:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They sold it, appraisers continue to buy it. Appraisers should not be surprised when abusive practices continue. When accepting orders from amc&#039;s, you are the customer, and the employee, at the same time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They sold it, appraisers continue to buy it. Appraisers should not be surprised when abusive practices continue. When accepting orders from amc&#8217;s, you are the customer, and the employee, at the same time.</p>
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		By: David Samnick on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Samnick on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 23:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since we can’t unify and fight the AMC’s have divided us and led us to the slaughter. We created this mess and only contribute to the demise of our profession. Let’s face it, all Appraisers are too chicken shit to unionize to SAVE our profession. The NAR can fight but we can’t. The 1004P will end us. Fannie Mae hates runners so now they created a form JUST for runners. It’s sad and comical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we can’t unify and fight the AMC’s have divided us and led us to the slaughter. We created this mess and only contribute to the demise of our profession. Let’s face it, all Appraisers are too chicken shit to unionize to SAVE our profession. The NAR can fight but we can’t. The 1004P will end us. Fannie Mae hates runners so now they created a form JUST for runners. It’s sad and comical.</p>
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		By: Bill Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 23:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26504&quot;&gt;E J Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

Being in a very large military town E J, I&#039;m blessed to do on average 7 to 12 VA assignments (took 17 years to get approved) a month ($600), and to still have good clients dating back 20+ years. Throw in some more recent direct lender work/relationships, and on an individual basis my results are not typical for my market. Even if I have it good, I understand that if 20, 40, 60, or 80% of the profession is struggling (say $300 AMC splits), then the industry will not survive, and thus I will go down with it.

Call me the peoples champ or a d**k, but I like to support from the bottom up, versus the top down regardless of my individual results.

Seek the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26504">E J Brown</a>.</p>
<p>Being in a very large military town E J, I&#8217;m blessed to do on average 7 to 12 VA assignments (took 17 years to get approved) a month ($600), and to still have good clients dating back 20+ years. Throw in some more recent direct lender work/relationships, and on an individual basis my results are not typical for my market. Even if I have it good, I understand that if 20, 40, 60, or 80% of the profession is struggling (say $300 AMC splits), then the industry will not survive, and thus I will go down with it.</p>
<p>Call me the peoples champ or a d**k, but I like to support from the bottom up, versus the top down regardless of my individual results.</p>
<p>Seek the truth.</p>
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		By: Bill Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 21:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26506&quot;&gt;Philip Gray on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, I guess another symptom of the ACS syndrome is violent verbal outbreaks. Do they have a pill for that? Philip, it&#039;s very common for one appraiser to say, so &#038; so company (perhaps an AMC) is great, when perhaps that same company is screwing over 8 out of 10 other appraisers. Philip, go get yours (that&#039;s fine), but when it comes to AMCs most are not being treated as you described (Example $600 AMC fees / your split), and thus in part the reason for this post (vacation time request). 

If the current appraisal system is collapsing due in part to AMC involvement, be careful ignoring the realities of most, as perhaps that reality will become your own.  

Seek the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26506">Philip Gray on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>Wow, I guess another symptom of the ACS syndrome is violent verbal outbreaks. Do they have a pill for that? Philip, it&#8217;s very common for one appraiser to say, so &amp; so company (perhaps an AMC) is great, when perhaps that same company is screwing over 8 out of 10 other appraisers. Philip, go get yours (that&#8217;s fine), but when it comes to AMCs most are not being treated as you described (Example $600 AMC fees / your split), and thus in part the reason for this post (vacation time request). </p>
<p>If the current appraisal system is collapsing due in part to AMC involvement, be careful ignoring the realities of most, as perhaps that reality will become your own.  </p>
<p>Seek the truth.</p>
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		By: E J Brown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 20:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26508&quot;&gt;Kathy Hubbard Bright on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

We&#039;re on the same page. No more updating license or E&#038;O for all the a-holes I never hear from anyway.]]></description>
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<p>We&#8217;re on the same page. No more updating license or E&amp;O for all the a-holes I never hear from anyway.</p>
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		By: Kathy Hubbard Bright on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathy Hubbard Bright on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 20:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I told one company that harassed me constantly that I’d had enough of their shit. Guess what? They don’t bother me anymore. &lt;img src=&quot;https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/ta/1.5/28/1f602.png&quot; width=&quot;16&quot; height=&quot;16&quot; alt=&quot;LMAO&quot;/&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told one company that harassed me constantly that I’d had enough of their shit. Guess what? They don’t bother me anymore. <img src="https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/ta/1.5/28/1f602.png" width="16" height="16" alt="LMAO"/></p>
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		By: Chad Blackley on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chad Blackley on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 20:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Been on their approved vendor list for a decade, zero orders thus far. I hear from them once a year when they want updated E&#038;O and licenses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been on their approved vendor list for a decade, zero orders thus far. I hear from them once a year when they want updated E&amp;O and licenses.</p>
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		By: Philip Gray on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Gray on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 20:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26493&quot;&gt;Bill Johnson&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, what a massive d**k you are Bill Johnson. You don&#039;t know me at all. Which is evident by your silly attack. Go f**k yourself.]]></description>
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<p>Wow, what a massive d**k you are Bill Johnson. You don&#8217;t know me at all. Which is evident by your silly attack. Go f**k yourself.</p>
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		By: Scott Taylor on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Taylor on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 20:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26492&quot;&gt;Philip Gray on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

Philip Gray now that makes sense then. Good to hear]]></description>
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<p>Philip Gray now that makes sense then. Good to hear</p>
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		By: E J Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E J Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 19:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/solidifi-2-solicit-appraisers-vacation-time/#comment-26502&quot;&gt;Bill Johnson&lt;/a&gt;.

I can understand Bill. 20 yrs ago my wife &#038; I moved out of Tampa, where I had lived for 47 yrs. We were fed up with it. Now living in rural SE GA I cover 4-5 counties and have never been more relaxed. If I can do 3-4 per week I&#039;m livin like a king. I&#039;m down to 2 AMC&#039;s I work with, the rest are locals.]]></description>
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<p>I can understand Bill. 20 yrs ago my wife &amp; I moved out of Tampa, where I had lived for 47 yrs. We were fed up with it. Now living in rural SE GA I cover 4-5 counties and have never been more relaxed. If I can do 3-4 per week I&#8217;m livin like a king. I&#8217;m down to 2 AMC&#8217;s I work with, the rest are locals.</p>
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