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		By: scott		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22505</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2018 14:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22497&quot;&gt;Baggins&lt;/a&gt;.

You can do rough math on similar tract houses between 10 and 25 years old based on short lived items such as roofs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22497">Baggins</a>.</p>
<p>You can do rough math on similar tract houses between 10 and 25 years old based on short lived items such as roofs.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22499</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2018 23:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22357&quot;&gt;chris&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;ve just given me a headache...

What&#039;s the discounted rate of your multiplier and yada yada yada over under noi irv, and where the hell is my whiskey!

Simple is better. These are individual homes and we&#039;re dealing with as is market value, not projected capitalization rate or whatever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22357">chris</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve just given me a headache&#8230;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the discounted rate of your multiplier and yada yada yada over under noi irv, and where the hell is my whiskey!</p>
<p>Simple is better. These are individual homes and we&#8217;re dealing with as is market value, not projected capitalization rate or whatever.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22498</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2018 23:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22350&quot;&gt;Scott&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I have applied a nominal but expected age adjustment, and focused more on the individual aspects of comparison and adjustment.&quot;

Old, 100 per year, new, up to 500 per year.

Easy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22350">Scott</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have applied a nominal but expected age adjustment, and focused more on the individual aspects of comparison and adjustment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Old, 100 per year, new, up to 500 per year.</p>
<p>Easy.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22497</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2018 23:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22363&quot;&gt;chris&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Effective age&quot; is better indicated as a C line or individual line item for quality of materials adjustment. Rather than play with effective ages just apply generalized reasonable market reaction estimates for the differences a buyer would pay for these deficient, superior, or inferior, whatever, aspects of an individual home.

I don&#039;t like effective age, it presumes consistency in care but that&#039;s not how people really manage their individual homes.

One guy will spend all his time outside and the exterior will be great, interior trashed. The next guy upgrades half is house and never finishes. The next guy all bells and whistles but never shells out the utility updates because they prefer to only spend a few thousand at a time and never actually afford the 10k for new electric panel revamp or whatever.

Individual line item adjustments are the winning play where the rubber hits the road. Effective age analysis is a tool for those looking in from far distances. Appraisers whom have been on site don&#039;t need such loosely defined estimates, we would rather deal with verifiable individual facts and parsed but reasonable estimates for those individual considerations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22363">chris</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Effective age&#8221; is better indicated as a C line or individual line item for quality of materials adjustment. Rather than play with effective ages just apply generalized reasonable market reaction estimates for the differences a buyer would pay for these deficient, superior, or inferior, whatever, aspects of an individual home.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like effective age, it presumes consistency in care but that&#8217;s not how people really manage their individual homes.</p>
<p>One guy will spend all his time outside and the exterior will be great, interior trashed. The next guy upgrades half is house and never finishes. The next guy all bells and whistles but never shells out the utility updates because they prefer to only spend a few thousand at a time and never actually afford the 10k for new electric panel revamp or whatever.</p>
<p>Individual line item adjustments are the winning play where the rubber hits the road. Effective age analysis is a tool for those looking in from far distances. Appraisers whom have been on site don&#8217;t need such loosely defined estimates, we would rather deal with verifiable individual facts and parsed but reasonable estimates for those individual considerations.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22380</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2018 19:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22348&quot;&gt;James&lt;/a&gt;.

Welcome to the brave new world of collateral underwriter and digital review tools anyone can use. Red flag; there is an adjustment for this but not for that, and an observable difference for both. Red flag, the appraiser has shown a pattern of such inconsistent adjustments. Just tag in the minor adjustments to appease the digi reviewer and then go back to the art not a science approach. Otherwise there will be no end to the pushback and having to educate the next assignment clerk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22348">James</a>.</p>
<p>Welcome to the brave new world of collateral underwriter and digital review tools anyone can use. Red flag; there is an adjustment for this but not for that, and an observable difference for both. Red flag, the appraiser has shown a pattern of such inconsistent adjustments. Just tag in the minor adjustments to appease the digi reviewer and then go back to the art not a science approach. Otherwise there will be no end to the pushback and having to educate the next assignment clerk.</p>
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		By: Joe Quinteros		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Quinteros]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22312&quot;&gt;Fritz Vogel AGA,CRS,CEI,GRI 27+ Yr Cert. Residential&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22312">Fritz Vogel AGA,CRS,CEI,GRI 27+ Yr Cert. Residential</a>.</p>
<p>Amen!!</p>
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		By: chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2018 14:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22361&quot;&gt;Dave Towne&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said.....we need more lines..... I learned in county where effective age adjustments were absolutely necessary, I no longer cover that County.......moved to a not so rural area, almost no competition.

My point was that the computers cannot figure out effective age adjustments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22361">Dave Towne</a>.</p>
<p>Well said&#8230;..we need more lines&#8230;.. I learned in county where effective age adjustments were absolutely necessary, I no longer cover that County&#8230;&#8230;.moved to a not so rural area, almost no competition.</p>
<p>My point was that the computers cannot figure out effective age adjustments.</p>
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		By: Dave Towne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Towne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2018 03:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22349&quot;&gt;chris&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris....no one &#039;removed&#039; Effective Age adjustments (when using UAD). What FNMA said early on is don&#039;t make an EA adjustment on the Age line. You can make a EA adjustment on one of the blank lines if you choose to use that. I don&#039;t make EA adjustments at all, because those are SUBJECTIVE and not really based on market evidence. Age and Condition related to the same items and are subjects of depreciation.  Normally I only make an Age adjustment between properties because typically the Condition between properties is roughly the same. Age is quantifiable. Condition also has subjectivity injected.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22349">chris</a>.</p>
<p>Chris&#8230;.no one &#8216;removed&#8217; Effective Age adjustments (when using UAD). What FNMA said early on is don&#8217;t make an EA adjustment on the Age line. You can make a EA adjustment on one of the blank lines if you choose to use that. I don&#8217;t make EA adjustments at all, because those are SUBJECTIVE and not really based on market evidence. Age and Condition related to the same items and are subjects of depreciation.  Normally I only make an Age adjustment between properties because typically the Condition between properties is roughly the same. Age is quantifiable. Condition also has subjectivity injected.</p>
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		By: chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 21:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22356&quot;&gt;James&lt;/a&gt;.

yup...and the principal of contribution. I have reviewed many. It doesn&#039;t matter what path the appraiser walks, we should all be able to get to the right market value within a few 1,000.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22356">James</a>.</p>
<p>yup&#8230;and the principal of contribution. I have reviewed many. It doesn&#8217;t matter what path the appraiser walks, we should all be able to get to the right market value within a few 1,000.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 21:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe you mean principle of substitution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you mean principle of substitution.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 21:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22349&quot;&gt;chris&lt;/a&gt;.

I believe you mean principle of substitution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22349">chris</a>.</p>
<p>I believe you mean principle of substitution.</p>
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		By: Juliana Homstead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juliana Homstead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 20:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22341&quot;&gt;SCOTT&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly! This is a significant figures question and in my humble opinion market reaction can not be measured that precisely. I round all my adjustments to the nearest hundred and my final value opinion to the nearest thousand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22341">SCOTT</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly! This is a significant figures question and in my humble opinion market reaction can not be measured that precisely. I round all my adjustments to the nearest hundred and my final value opinion to the nearest thousand.</p>
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		By: Scott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I quit doing age adjustments a while ago because a reviewer wanted me to support them but I do believe they are appropriate if for nothing more than changing fads. But then I sold houses for years and know appraisal is an art as much or more than a science. Selling for many years also makes me realize most will never get all the fine points of the appraisal trade.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quit doing age adjustments a while ago because a reviewer wanted me to support them but I do believe they are appropriate if for nothing more than changing fads. But then I sold houses for years and know appraisal is an art as much or more than a science. Selling for many years also makes me realize most will never get all the fine points of the appraisal trade.</p>
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		By: chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[James, you might want to review the concept of substitution again, I know it was taught years ago in appraising 101.

Also does anybody remember effective age, I wonder why they removed effective age from our appraisal reports.

Effective age adjustments would really mess up their computer derived adjustments for C1, C2, C3 C4 C5 C6 adjustments]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, you might want to review the concept of substitution again, I know it was taught years ago in appraising 101.</p>
<p>Also does anybody remember effective age, I wonder why they removed effective age from our appraisal reports.</p>
<p>Effective age adjustments would really mess up their computer derived adjustments for C1, C2, C3 C4 C5 C6 adjustments</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Truth is it doesn&#039;t matter if you use some complicated algorithm or simple marched pair studies it&#039;s still an overall adjust based on similar sales in a given neighborhood or market. I can take you to nearly every neighborhood and pull all sales and listings. I&#039;ll bet you will have sales that vary by 100, 200 or even 300 sq feet but sell nearly identical prices with no reason why. I&#039;ve long said that how a property is marketed can boost or lower the sales price. In other words the slick talking realtor with excellent marketing skills can get 10% more from a property than the lazy realtor just trying to make a quick sale. Now isn&#039;t that higher priced home or homes in some cases by same realtor in a neighborhood gonns push per sq ft values? All my rambling is meant to make appraisers see that don&#039;t work yourself in a tizzy over adjustments. I never adjust for differences in sq feet less than 50 and usually its 100 feet. I typically never adjust for age on homes over 20 years. Why would you? I can fund 50 year old house same size  quality and condition as 20 year old house and 50 year old sold for more. Of course there is always exceptions. Just relax and ask yourself do I really need to make an adjustment for that fireplace? Fence? Brick versus vinyl? Etc. Make sure it actually has any impact in the market. Excessive adjustments are just as bad as doing no adjustments. Both ways you are incorrectly producing skewed results.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth is it doesn&#8217;t matter if you use some complicated algorithm or simple marched pair studies it&#8217;s still an overall adjust based on similar sales in a given neighborhood or market. I can take you to nearly every neighborhood and pull all sales and listings. I&#8217;ll bet you will have sales that vary by 100, 200 or even 300 sq feet but sell nearly identical prices with no reason why. I&#8217;ve long said that how a property is marketed can boost or lower the sales price. In other words the slick talking realtor with excellent marketing skills can get 10% more from a property than the lazy realtor just trying to make a quick sale. Now isn&#8217;t that higher priced home or homes in some cases by same realtor in a neighborhood gonns push per sq ft values? All my rambling is meant to make appraisers see that don&#8217;t work yourself in a tizzy over adjustments. I never adjust for differences in sq feet less than 50 and usually its 100 feet. I typically never adjust for age on homes over 20 years. Why would you? I can fund 50 year old house same size  quality and condition as 20 year old house and 50 year old sold for more. Of course there is always exceptions. Just relax and ask yourself do I really need to make an adjustment for that fireplace? Fence? Brick versus vinyl? Etc. Make sure it actually has any impact in the market. Excessive adjustments are just as bad as doing no adjustments. Both ways you are incorrectly producing skewed results.</p>
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		By: AS Appraisal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I round my adjustments to the nearest $100 and usually do not make adjustments that are less than 1%. When I bought a house from a builder for $324,872 I switched lenders and 2 appraisals were done... One came in at $325,000 and the other came in at $324,872.... wow- pretty precise!?!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I round my adjustments to the nearest $100 and usually do not make adjustments that are less than 1%. When I bought a house from a builder for $324,872 I switched lenders and 2 appraisals were done&#8230; One came in at $325,000 and the other came in at $324,872&#8230;. wow- pretty precise!?!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agreed, the reports I reviewed from commercial appraisers are brutal. most of them think being located on a busy street is a positive for a residential property, they take no consideration in size, and they really have no idea with market-based adjustment should be for residential appraisals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, the reports I reviewed from commercial appraisers are brutal. most of them think being located on a busy street is a positive for a residential property, they take no consideration in size, and they really have no idea with market-based adjustment should be for residential appraisals.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have reviewed many many appraisals; the precise adjustment crowd, about 90% of the time, is a commercial designated appraiser completing a residential assignment.  I have a big enough sample size to make this statement BTW. ISWIS]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have reviewed many many appraisals; the precise adjustment crowd, about 90% of the time, is a commercial designated appraiser completing a residential assignment.  I have a big enough sample size to make this statement BTW. ISWIS</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22313&quot;&gt;John Pratt&lt;/a&gt;.

That was the exact thing that caught my eye before anything else.  $100 adjustment?  Really?  Is your ego so big that you can nail a market difference to within $100?  Wow!  I don&#039;t even make and adjustment for anything less than $1,000.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/schizophrenic-precise-dollar-adjustments/#comment-22313">John Pratt</a>.</p>
<p>That was the exact thing that caught my eye before anything else.  $100 adjustment?  Really?  Is your ego so big that you can nail a market difference to within $100?  Wow!  I don&#8217;t even make and adjustment for anything less than $1,000.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 13:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not rounding assumes an accuracy that&#039;s not there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not rounding assumes an accuracy that&#8217;s not there.</p>
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