Respectfully Tbhiitsch, $350 to $700 a week is not being ‘rich’ by most metrics…unless you mean you are independently wealthy. If so congratulations. If not, then you’ve set your sights much too low.

What you describe doing is precisely why many or most real appraisers refuse to do bifurcated hybrid appraisals. I’ve reviewed completed Mueller Report appraisals prepared by a conscientious appraiser. They are still indefensible before a state board.

It may seem like a minor issue to you, not being an appraiser who has ever had to worry about being USPAP compliant, or complying with a state’s measuring requirement where ANSI may be required but rounding to a foot can produce significant errors.

While not all states (or USPAP) require ANSI to be followed, they do require factual accuracy. The estimates you indicate don’t meet any recognized standards. Checklists or ‘app’ prompts are better than nothing but unless you are an appraiser yourself it’s doubtful you or the app knows what questions are variably relevant from one unique situation to another.

For example, a shared driveway. What else do you inquire about?

Anyway, thank you for providing first-hand evidence of yet another reason licensed or certified appraisers should avoid doing bifurcated hybrids.

JJ – I will listen. I am a Vice President (Special Projects) of the American Guild of Appraisers, OPEIU, AFL-CIO; as well as Chairman of the National Appraiser Peer Review Committee. My cell phone is (714) 366 9404 and my personal email is mike@mfford.com. You can also reach us in writing through janbellas@appraisersguild.org

If you call me please call after 10AM PST I tend to work late into the nights. Ultimately we’ll ask for written confirmation of what you are saying (essentially what you said here).

I WILL SPEAK TO ANYONE WHO WILL LISTEN. THIS COMPANY IS BAD NEWS.

STAY AWAY AT ALL COSTS. COMPLETE SHAM COMPANY.

We only had 3 days of training as inspectors and then we were working cases via phone app. I had no prior experience whatsoever and had to self teach myself everything. A lot of guessing. All I would really do is drive to homes, take pictures and then use a real estate website that rhymes with “Pillow” to get appraisal data. This report would be sent to a QA dept. where they would edit as they see fit and then send to Insurance companies. I am ashamed to know this could have affected someones insurance policy.

After 2 months on the job, I stopped getting cases to my phone. HR or management would not return my emails or calls. I was sent an email simply saying “Case ordering dropped unexpectedly.” I didn’t receive cases for over 3 weeks and no one from the company would give me answers or speak to me. I am DISGUSTED by how I was treated as an employee. Now I am struggling to pay my bills and find another job. I left a stable job to join this company and they used me and then dumped me without saying a word to me.

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My neighbor, a heavy daily pot smoker and not all that bright, called Mueller to sign up for inspection training at $19/hr plus gas money.

See where this is going? Total failure in 2-3 years. Borrower’s will probably still pay full appraisal rate for a half price product. Not a chance the lender will pass the savings along to the borrower.

I’m hearing stories from borrowers that certain lenders are charging the borrower $1,650 for an appraisal that my old office charged the lender $850 for, another lender charged $1,980 for a 1004 + Comp Rent Survey that I charged the lender $950 for.

It looks like the lenders not only moved the lender appraisal ordering & review cost from the lender’s side of the ledger to the borrower’ side of the ledger plus adding a ridiculous, non earned profit onto it too boot.

Absolutely on the mark. It would have taken me two pages to explain what you just condensed to four lines. Well stated Don.

Returning to good lending practice is a political problem. Given enough incentives any of US would give in.

I’m still trying to find those millennials that are so affluent as to be able drive a demand that the entire market must speed up to give them Amazon like speed and convenience.

Personally, I think its the same type of misleading claim that the same LIARS put out about a national appraiser shortage

The classic part is offering a product at a price that no reputable appraiser can compete with. The LIE about it being USPAP compliant until the greedy morons at specific lenders accept and defend the deficient product until regulators can no longer pretend the report types routinely violate USPAP BY DESIGN, just as the old First American/ACI PACE PRO hybrids did.

That’s strange – VaCAP found they lacked a license in Virginia as well…of any kind!

I wondered who could possibly ever beat out Clear Val in the hybrid-garbage arena. These guys are definite contenders. The 1,500 appraisers they claim to have on their staff should be VERY careful because eventually examples of all bad work find their way into the public arena.

Thanks CJK, I’m here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waitstaff.

Seek the truth.

Well, maybe the AI Designated member who completed the report does not know about Standard 2 requirements!

Did anyone see a summary of highest and best use? We all know checking the box does not satisfy Standard 2 reporting.

Mueller must not be licensed here either or they would/should know that.

(4) those who want to profit off of appraisers while they are trying to get rid of us.

As one of my friends would say: “that is classic.”

Thanks for the heads up on FHA. I never understood why they had a fee inspector complete the final inspection for properties under construction. When all of my clients always required the original appraiser to complete the final inspection. In my market permits are issued, the building department completes all the inspection, and a CoO is issued. The fee inspectors may have served a purpose for markets with no building codes.

Agreed Mike! Sadly, these garbage products are being rolled out at a record pace. The state boards do not act that quickly, if at all, so any action taken will be too late. They need to get in front of this now. The only states that have taken the initiative have been forced to by appraisers. I have not seen any results except for Illinois.

Or even if a in person observation was completed at all.

Requesting the new FNMA forms hardstop if new fields are not filled out. The individuals name whom inspected. Any and all typing or data service assists. The compensation amount. Sunlight is the best medicine and outsourcing only leads to much larger problems than time management and income concerns.