That data is about as good as a flat tire. So the range is poverty to high middle class with an average and mean around the adjusted national average.

I’m going to write a book with an accompanying podcast about the guy who wrote the other books and had the podcasts. I’m serious, it’s going to be big.

Any time Terry. It’s our pleasure.

Thank you so very much for taking the time to answer. We will join the Guild, and follow your thoughtful advice. Really appreciate the guidance!

He can also join the American Guild of Appraisers and you can just pick up the phone and call us whenever he or you have a question. (714) 366 9404

Contact Jan Bellas at janbellas@appraisersguild.org or click my linked name

Terry, it depends on his experience and background. ”Big’ jobs always entail more experience and expertise (at least in theory). Does he have that level of experience?

Whats his area of special expertise? If he doesn’t have one, then he has to consider the ONE area that he is willing to become an expert in . He’ll have to learn everything about that aspect that he can. MUCH more than his competitors. Then he has to slowly build up his reputation in that area. It doesn’t happen overnight.

Read conservation easements or value definitions at http://www.mfford.com just to give you an idea of some of the ares where higher fee work may be found. There are so many more areas. What are local requirements for Expert Witnesses? Many have the appraisal expeience and merely need to see what local Superior Court requiremens are. Then market yourself to attorneys (Family Law & Real Estate Law).

If he’s licensed or certified residential he could become the local area expert in 2 to 4 unit property. A lot of res appraisers just don’t like doing them; but done right they pay better and are not that tough.

Until you have an idea of what his specialty is, the best way you could help him is…to actually HELP him! Prepare the work file folder when the order comes in; once appointment is set maybe pre-type as much as possible so that he can save time there without having to pay a form filler in India. As you learn more, you can help him more. You could certainly help him increase productivity by 25% to 50% if you guys do it right.

Also, do it as his Office Manager – not as his spouse.

That’s $600,000 with only Mondays in the office Retired. The other four days are dedicated to blogs, podcasts, and conferences.

Bill, bet he doesn’t have to pay for his own appraisal software, E&O, MLS, RealQuest or other PR svc; portal fees, office space, printer ink or paper, utilities, marketing, or even legal defenses if or when someone gets upset with him and the firm he works for.

I just got a 50% retainer for the highest fee I ever charged…BUT this doesn’t happen every day or even every month. I bid one of these on average a year, but most often they do not come through. Users in those price ranges are window shopping most of the time. I don’t mind, because they generate other referrals; and like this case, once in awhile they DO place the order…even knowing they can find others to do it for less.

I doubt that most of us here also consider ourselves to be ‘average’ appraisers. If we did (or were) then we’d be quietly invisible instead of trying to cause necessary changes to preserve our profession..

STOP promoting the myth that we cant talk about what we get paid or what we SHOULD get paid!

You think the banks don’t talk about how much they are going to pay AMCs ($550 to $650) to in turn pay us chicken feed?

IF a TRID can fix my fee in place before I am ever consulted, then NOTHING I discuss with you guys can be alleged to violate anti trust law.

Here, lets test it…To ALL appraisers in America I’d like to suggest we set a bare bones minimum fee of $850 for a non complex FNMA 1004/UAD format appraisal & report with 1004MC-three comps required; 7 to 10 day normal TAT. Any other comps are at our own discretion OR if required by clients direction we charge $150 each for them). 1007 an additional $250 for sfr only. “HEY FTC! OVER HERE!!!!”

Our fee has already been decided for us in the AMC world! We re merely allowed to suggest what we want-not to actually obtain it.

Phillip are you considering overhead (25% to 50%). Go to http://www.mfford.com C&R Fee tab or http://www.appraisersguild.org and review C&R fee proposal from a couple years ago (add 3% to 5% to those numbers).

Dave used the term ‘salary’ but I think he meant it in the generic colloquial sense since extremely few appraisers earn salaries anymore outside of government.

Right now Seattle and much of Washington state is in a boom period. It won’t last.

Anonymous, Id challenge $170k a year for ANY residential appraiser working as a one man shop. Now, if you are one of those folks out there sending picture takers or trainees out while writing desk tops all day, its possible. OR a very organized and successful C&I appraiser could make that. You’d be among the top earners in the country. Congratulations. You’ve done something right that many of the rest of us are unable to.

A senior government appraiser (GS13 step 7) is only making $65 an hour and that includes the locality high cost of living allowance…roughly a $100k a year…not $170k.

Doug, 40 a month??? You are doing 40 highest and best use analyses and land value extractions or sale comparisons each month as part of them? All market verified and supportable non rote adjustments? All for $350 (average).

40 per month at $350 average per report (includes driveby and 1004 reports)  = 14k x 12 months = $168k yrly.

Data junk in equals data junk out!! Let’s do another survey. GO TIGERS!

The highest paid cities make sense, b/c one would have to pay me bookoo money to move there…more like tripple the max appraiser salary before you even have my attention.

https://www.comparably.com/salaries/salaries-for-residential-real-estate-appraiser

I haven’t read the article yet, did they break it down by region? If they just did it nationwide the areas where the fees are really low would bring down the higher fee areas….also there’s the difference between the self employed incomes and those that take actual W2 wages from their corporations…I don’t know if the study went that in depth in asking for figures? If they didn’t word things correctly people may have reported vastly different figures