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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18560</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 10:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18558&quot;&gt;Robert&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely agree. If sale prices are ALL (or nearly all) showing numbers like $500,000; $490,000 or $495,000, and $489,000 then the market signficant number is $1,000 and quite often $5k or even $10k

Telling someone the adjustment for site is $11,393.99 is misleading...and amateurish.

Makes me wonder who  did the appraisal. Appraiser signing it or the software programmer for the vendor selling the autoadjust software used in the report writing stage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18558">Robert</a>.</p>
<p>Absolutely agree. If sale prices are ALL (or nearly all) showing numbers like $500,000; $490,000 or $495,000, and $489,000 then the market signficant number is $1,000 and quite often $5k or even $10k</p>
<p>Telling someone the adjustment for site is $11,393.99 is misleading&#8230;and amateurish.</p>
<p>Makes me wonder who  did the appraisal. Appraiser signing it or the software programmer for the vendor selling the autoadjust software used in the report writing stage.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 10:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18480&quot;&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt;.

Dan, unless of course your &quot;evidence&quot; is a CoreLogic based regression program...or some other equally unreliable system that only looks at 70% of the value related characteristics of a property, and allocates the remaining 30% among those 70% factors.

Do you NOT use sensitivity analysis after you &lt;em&gt;THINK&lt;/em&gt; you have identified the adjustment factor? By being so finite on the indication derived from &#039;evidence&#039; I assume you are talking about ONLY statistical evidence, right? Contrary to current trends being promoted by the Big Data &#039;set&#039;, there are many other forms of perfectly acceptable market &#039;evidence&#039;.

Failing to round to market signficant numbers is a sign of rank amateurs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18480">Dan</a>.</p>
<p>Dan, unless of course your &#8220;evidence&#8221; is a CoreLogic based regression program&#8230;or some other equally unreliable system that only looks at 70% of the value related characteristics of a property, and allocates the remaining 30% among those 70% factors.</p>
<p>Do you NOT use sensitivity analysis after you <em>THINK</em> you have identified the adjustment factor? By being so finite on the indication derived from &#8216;evidence&#8217; I assume you are talking about ONLY statistical evidence, right? Contrary to current trends being promoted by the Big Data &#8216;set&#8217;, there are many other forms of perfectly acceptable market &#8216;evidence&#8217;.</p>
<p>Failing to round to market signficant numbers is a sign of rank amateurs.</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2017 06:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I review full time after 27 years of appraising. please remember that the market approach is based on market and not precision formula with generic non rounded numbers, it makes report silly.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I review full time after 27 years of appraising. please remember that the market approach is based on market and not precision formula with generic non rounded numbers, it makes report silly.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18530</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2017 03:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18500&quot;&gt;Herb Martin on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

Well when I try to &#039;add the value&#039; to my house.  I end up paying retail market rates almost every single time.  Theory is a nice idea.  In the real world you pay dollar for dollar and unless you&#039;re on a far side of the spectrum one way or another, your gains are tempered by the real world cost.  An informed buyer who&#039;s been there and done that won&#039;t pay a seller a fortune for installed materials they could otherwise manage themselves with simple labor processes.  Only when a home is really trashed or really dated, very simple, not keeping up with market standards, only then does it begin to make sense to buyers to pony up the cost + investment.  It&#039;s a hassle to do that yourself, having contractors all day for weeks is no joke and not cool if you are living there.  But for just a hardwood spread, just a deck, etc, real world costs are the most applicable consideration.  In my humble out in the field and not stuck to the desk opinion of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18500">Herb Martin on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>Well when I try to &#8216;add the value&#8217; to my house.  I end up paying retail market rates almost every single time.  Theory is a nice idea.  In the real world you pay dollar for dollar and unless you&#8217;re on a far side of the spectrum one way or another, your gains are tempered by the real world cost.  An informed buyer who&#8217;s been there and done that won&#8217;t pay a seller a fortune for installed materials they could otherwise manage themselves with simple labor processes.  Only when a home is really trashed or really dated, very simple, not keeping up with market standards, only then does it begin to make sense to buyers to pony up the cost + investment.  It&#8217;s a hassle to do that yourself, having contractors all day for weeks is no joke and not cool if you are living there.  But for just a hardwood spread, just a deck, etc, real world costs are the most applicable consideration.  In my humble out in the field and not stuck to the desk opinion of course.</p>
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		By: Keith		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18529</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2017 02:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18500&quot;&gt;Herb Martin on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

I see no issue with across the board adjustments being exact with evidence to support the average, weighted average, or predominant market derived contributory value based on the unit of comparison. I agree that if OMV is developed in this manner then rounding should be completed at the end. I definitely agree that minimum thresholds should be used. When reviewing reports it is frustrating seeing $300 adjustments on reports with a final OMV around $300,000.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18500">Herb Martin on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>I see no issue with across the board adjustments being exact with evidence to support the average, weighted average, or predominant market derived contributory value based on the unit of comparison. I agree that if OMV is developed in this manner then rounding should be completed at the end. I definitely agree that minimum thresholds should be used. When reviewing reports it is frustrating seeing $300 adjustments on reports with a final OMV around $300,000.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 23:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18470&quot;&gt;Pierce Blitch, III&lt;/a&gt;.

In my market I round to nearest $1000. Rarely is even $500 a realistic market perception. Anyone that questions this is clearly inexperienced and probably not qualified to understand the answer even if its explained to them.

I&#039;ve said things like &quot;Requesting party to identify self by name, company and position within the company so I have a record for my file.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18470">Pierce Blitch, III</a>.</p>
<p>In my market I round to nearest $1000. Rarely is even $500 a realistic market perception. Anyone that questions this is clearly inexperienced and probably not qualified to understand the answer even if its explained to them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said things like &#8220;Requesting party to identify self by name, company and position within the company so I have a record for my file.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Herb Martin on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Herb Martin on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 19:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18496&quot;&gt;Baggins&lt;/a&gt;.

Its not the cost of the improvement, its the value the improvement adds]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18496">Baggins</a>.</p>
<p>Its not the cost of the improvement, its the value the improvement adds</p>
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		By: Herb Martin on Facebook		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 19:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18496&quot;&gt;Baggins&lt;/a&gt;.

Its not the cost of the improvement, its the value the improvement adds]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18496">Baggins</a>.</p>
<p>Its not the cost of the improvement, its the value the improvement adds</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 19:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please remember that the vast majority of &#039;administrative reviews&#039; are performed by people whom are not appraisers, nor versed in appraisal valuation theory.  Mercury does not have a rule check for exact adjusts to scale for land, but it does have that for agla.  One presumes the competitors may have that though, it&#039;s a point easy to measure w/ automated tools.  I don&#039;t think you&#039;re on to anything here Dave, nothing wrong with entering across the board exact then rounding the final reconciliation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please remember that the vast majority of &#8216;administrative reviews&#8217; are performed by people whom are not appraisers, nor versed in appraisal valuation theory.  Mercury does not have a rule check for exact adjusts to scale for land, but it does have that for agla.  One presumes the competitors may have that though, it&#8217;s a point easy to measure w/ automated tools.  I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re on to anything here Dave, nothing wrong with entering across the board exact then rounding the final reconciliation.</p>
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		By: Pierce Blitch III		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pierce Blitch III]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 18:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18480&quot;&gt;Dan&lt;/a&gt;.

What???  I think that you might not understand what he is saying.  He is not rounding the $62 but is rounding the result of the $62/sf adjustment of the differences in GLA or $62/sf x 211 sf = $13,082 or $13,100.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18480">Dan</a>.</p>
<p>What???  I think that you might not understand what he is saying.  He is not rounding the $62 but is rounding the result of the $62/sf adjustment of the differences in GLA or $62/sf x 211 sf = $13,082 or $13,100.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seriously - If Dave rounds everything and arrives upon an opinion of $230,000, while Dan arrives upon an opinion of $230,100, what does it matter? Unless we are talking across the board. Then we have that little thing called evidence. If your data shows adjustments are applicable at $62 per square foot, then you had better use $62 and not $100. To round that to the nearest $100 would potentially lead to results that you cannot justify with your evidence. For a comparable that is 300 square feet different than the subject, that would be an $11,400 swing in adjustment that can&#039;t be justified. Just my two cents. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously &#8211; If Dave rounds everything and arrives upon an opinion of $230,000, while Dan arrives upon an opinion of $230,100, what does it matter? Unless we are talking across the board. Then we have that little thing called evidence. If your data shows adjustments are applicable at $62 per square foot, then you had better use $62 and not $100. To round that to the nearest $100 would potentially lead to results that you cannot justify with your evidence. For a comparable that is 300 square feet different than the subject, that would be an $11,400 swing in adjustment that can&#8217;t be justified. Just my two cents. </p>
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		By: Pierce G Blitch III on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pierce G Blitch III on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 17:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18474&quot;&gt;Juliana Homstead&lt;/a&gt;.

HA! But you forget who we are dealing with most of the time......]]></description>
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<p>HA! But you forget who we are dealing with most of the time&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Juliana Homstead		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juliana Homstead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I round all of my adjustments to the nearest $100 and have never received a complaint. It simply makes sense to anyone who is familiar with significant figures. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I round all of my adjustments to the nearest $100 and have never received a complaint. It simply makes sense to anyone who is familiar with significant figures. </p>
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		By: Gail Maulden Gnann on Facebook		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/rounding-vs-precise-adjustments/#comment-18473</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gail Maulden Gnann on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 16:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Definitely nutty UW&#039;s. All adjustments are generally rounded. Except gla, which have adjustments like -6824 because of so called &quot;consistency&quot;. But then they accept the notion of  no gla adjustment for say less than 100 sq ft difference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely nutty UW&#8217;s. All adjustments are generally rounded. Except gla, which have adjustments like -6824 because of so called &#8220;consistency&#8221;. But then they accept the notion of  no gla adjustment for say less than 100 sq ft difference.</p>
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		By: Herb Martin on Facebook		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 14:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have never received a complaint on this and I still round to the nearest 100]]></description>
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		By: Pierce Blitch, III		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2017 14:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For almost 30 years, I rounded site, GLA, and other adjustments to the nearest $100. About 5 years ago some &quot;entity&quot; must have put a bee in a bunch of underwriters drawers as I was constantly receiving questions as to why I used a differed $ per square foot to adjust for GLA. I was using the SAME $/sf but it was rounding to the nearest $100. I could not for the life of me convince multiple underwriters that rounding to the nearest $100 in the GLA adjustment made absolutely NO difference in the value conclusion. So, I now round to the nearest $ and get few if any complaints, except from other appraisers who want to know how I can be so &quot;precise&quot;. Well, &quot;I fought the Law and the Law won&quot;. Sometimes you have to pick your battles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For almost 30 years, I rounded site, GLA, and other adjustments to the nearest $100. About 5 years ago some &#8220;entity&#8221; must have put a bee in a bunch of underwriters drawers as I was constantly receiving questions as to why I used a differed $ per square foot to adjust for GLA. I was using the SAME $/sf but it was rounding to the nearest $100. I could not for the life of me convince multiple underwriters that rounding to the nearest $100 in the GLA adjustment made absolutely NO difference in the value conclusion. So, I now round to the nearest $ and get few if any complaints, except from other appraisers who want to know how I can be so &#8220;precise&#8221;. Well, &#8220;I fought the Law and the Law won&#8221;. Sometimes you have to pick your battles.</p>
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