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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/rethinking-seat-time-requirements-4-online-exams/#comment-43695</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2024 15:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Revisiting this one for an appraiser friend. Just took USPAP again. Calypso has the best deals in town, sign up to the mailing list for their coupons. Picked up the ethics for $170 or there abouts, and landed another 14 hours for only $150 dollars. They’re the last affordable independent CE online that I could find. 
  
Firefox Mozilla is apparently still working well to defeat session timers. I’m not sure exactly what add on or setting I have which is defeating this, probably a combination of strict privacy, no track, ublock, and privacy badger. Something is working though. 
  
Define; content mastery. Twenty years later we understand the principals and content, many appraisers have the ethics book memorized or at least have comprehensive memory for instant reference of the content. After ten dozen times taking the same class, there is not much left to learn.  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revisiting this one for an appraiser friend. Just took USPAP again. Calypso has the best deals in town, sign up to the mailing list for their coupons. Picked up the ethics for $170 or there abouts, and landed another 14 hours for only $150 dollars. They’re the last affordable independent CE online that I could find. </p>
<p>Firefox Mozilla is apparently still working well to defeat session timers. I’m not sure exactly what add on or setting I have which is defeating this, probably a combination of strict privacy, no track, ublock, and privacy badger. Something is working though. </p>
<p>Define; content mastery. Twenty years later we understand the principals and content, many appraisers have the ethics book memorized or at least have comprehensive memory for instant reference of the content. After ten dozen times taking the same class, there is not much left to learn.  </p>
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		By: don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 23:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/rethinking-seat-time-requirements-4-online-exams/#comment-36194&quot;&gt;Mary T Thompson&lt;/a&gt;.

All I know is that when I took Course One it took me all the time California gave me.  Am I happy I&#039;m in California?
been here a long time?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/rethinking-seat-time-requirements-4-online-exams/#comment-36194">Mary T Thompson</a>.</p>
<p>All I know is that when I took Course One it took me all the time California gave me.  Am I happy I&#8217;m in California?<br />
been here a long time?</p>
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		By: Mary T Thompson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary T Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 13:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agree! I guess they figure if you go to an actual class, you cannot get out earlier than the 3 hour time period instructors need to educate you in that amount of time. This is one reason I went to online education years ago. Oh well, we shall see how it all goes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree! I guess they figure if you go to an actual class, you cannot get out earlier than the 3 hour time period instructors need to educate you in that amount of time. This is one reason I went to online education years ago. Oh well, we shall see how it all goes.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 23:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Use firefox with various trace blockers and other about:config manipulations to defeat rudimentary software oversight.  The technical question becomes; does the time in active screen session clock even function with various trace blockers on, and does the software purveyor allow a browser pass through before implementing the clock adherence counter?  When these online schools start getting too strict with the controls, students move along to the next outlet which lets us keep our preferred browser settings.

It&#039;s like that all over the net, get off of MS products as the first step to mitigate online control tools.  Lately I&#039;ve been tooling around with anti fingerprinting toggling which is really quite exceptional.   That and privacy badger, it&#039;s super fun and easy to use.  If you knew how to code you could write a simple script to auto click the &#039;I&#039;m still here&#039; session timer pop up until the timer ticks out.  All they did to comply with that reg was force a time clock adherence, presuming your browser accepted that informational packet exchange in the first place.
  
It&#039;s not a perfect science, lag, latency, script communications within the browser, all of that.  Right click the element, investigate, see if anything can be done with a simple scripting peramiter change.  It&#039;s all such a waste of time and energy.  So I looked at extensions for you on this one.  Session Alive might be useful, and there are probably a dozen other indy sourced add ons like that.  Sometimes you have to install and test, try a few out, but quite often, there is someone out there who&#039;s dealt with it before, who knows how to code, and has written simple scripts to assist.  Keyword; Session Timer.  It&#039;s the notion that tech is a tool of control rather than an empowering item, that some tech nerd far away can control our lives, our speech, how we spend our time, which is simply not the case.  In the end, it&#039;s just tech.  Orwells Revenge.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/keep-session-alive/?utm_source=addons.mozilla.org&#038;utm_medium=referral&#038;utm_content=search&lt;a href=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/appraisersblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/farsidegiftedstudent.jpg?fit=614%2C486&#038;ssl=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use firefox with various trace blockers and other about:config manipulations to defeat rudimentary software oversight.  The technical question becomes; does the time in active screen session clock even function with various trace blockers on, and does the software purveyor allow a browser pass through before implementing the clock adherence counter?  When these online schools start getting too strict with the controls, students move along to the next outlet which lets us keep our preferred browser settings.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like that all over the net, get off of MS products as the first step to mitigate online control tools.  Lately I&#8217;ve been tooling around with anti fingerprinting toggling which is really quite exceptional.   That and privacy badger, it&#8217;s super fun and easy to use.  If you knew how to code you could write a simple script to auto click the &#8216;I&#8217;m still here&#8217; session timer pop up until the timer ticks out.  All they did to comply with that reg was force a time clock adherence, presuming your browser accepted that informational packet exchange in the first place.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a perfect science, lag, latency, script communications within the browser, all of that.  Right click the element, investigate, see if anything can be done with a simple scripting peramiter change.  It&#8217;s all such a waste of time and energy.  So I looked at extensions for you on this one.  Session Alive might be useful, and there are probably a dozen other indy sourced add ons like that.  Sometimes you have to install and test, try a few out, but quite often, there is someone out there who&#8217;s dealt with it before, who knows how to code, and has written simple scripts to assist.  Keyword; Session Timer.  It&#8217;s the notion that tech is a tool of control rather than an empowering item, that some tech nerd far away can control our lives, our speech, how we spend our time, which is simply not the case.  In the end, it&#8217;s just tech.  Orwells Revenge.<br />
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		By: Bryan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 19:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/rethinking-seat-time-requirements-4-online-exams/#comment-36191&quot;&gt;Rick D&lt;/a&gt;.

Let’s think about this. It takes the same exact amount of hours to gain a college Bachelor’s Degree.  Gym teacher,  Mechanical Engineer, Marine Biologist, Art appreciation, general studies, Physics, Hotel management and so on. How can it be possible that it takes the exact same amount of hours to learn any topic? Nonsensical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/rethinking-seat-time-requirements-4-online-exams/#comment-36191">Rick D</a>.</p>
<p>Let’s think about this. It takes the same exact amount of hours to gain a college Bachelor’s Degree.  Gym teacher,  Mechanical Engineer, Marine Biologist, Art appreciation, general studies, Physics, Hotel management and so on. How can it be possible that it takes the exact same amount of hours to learn any topic? Nonsensical.</p>
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		By: Rick D		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 18:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree as well. All of it has wasted countless hours for me even though I passed all of the required quizzes and/or exam.  Sometimes I get to the quizzes too quick and the on-line seminar/course will make me wait!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree as well. All of it has wasted countless hours for me even though I passed all of the required quizzes and/or exam.  Sometimes I get to the quizzes too quick and the on-line seminar/course will make me wait!</p>
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		By: Diana Nytko		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diana Nytko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 16:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Absolutely ridiculous requirement, one of the reasons why I&#039;m considering retirement after 54 years]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely ridiculous requirement, one of the reasons why I&#8217;m considering retirement after 54 years</p>
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		By: Cliff Troyansky		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Same here! Pretty annoying and a waste of time]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here! Pretty annoying and a waste of time</p>
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		By: Dana O'Hara Smith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dana O'Hara Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 15:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agreed!]]></description>
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