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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/reality-of-todays-appraisal-environment-n-discriminatory-falsehood/#comment-39263</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2023 18:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://dsnews.com/news/10-31-2023/zombie-foreclosures-are

Related.  Foreclosure stats.  If prices come down, and inflation comes under control, we could see a wave of foreclosures hard to imagine.  How about nearly a million people on the precipice right now, under current economic conditions, just for starters.  Remember when I was talking about researching treasurer public default notices?  The trend continues.  

Can you observe the correlation of needing to shift blame?  This trend of settlement will eventually end, because they&#039;ll run out of money to do so.  Eighty thousand appraisers insurance policies up against a never ending ngo and 501c group grants hand out from gse&#039;s, to incentivize complaints against appraisers.  The bright side is this issue of frenzied race based arguments is seeing increasing push back from many different industries and groups of persons just about everywhere this effects peoples lives.  Even at the lowest possible levels, the local school boards, the primary talking point has shifted to we&#039;ve had enough of the race and equity based narratives.  Being a national trend, it appears the support for race based narratives is crumbling from the ground up.  That&#039;s real democracy in action.]]></description>
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<p>Related.  Foreclosure stats.  If prices come down, and inflation comes under control, we could see a wave of foreclosures hard to imagine.  How about nearly a million people on the precipice right now, under current economic conditions, just for starters.  Remember when I was talking about researching treasurer public default notices?  The trend continues.  </p>
<p>Can you observe the correlation of needing to shift blame?  This trend of settlement will eventually end, because they&#8217;ll run out of money to do so.  Eighty thousand appraisers insurance policies up against a never ending ngo and 501c group grants hand out from gse&#8217;s, to incentivize complaints against appraisers.  The bright side is this issue of frenzied race based arguments is seeing increasing push back from many different industries and groups of persons just about everywhere this effects peoples lives.  Even at the lowest possible levels, the local school boards, the primary talking point has shifted to we&#8217;ve had enough of the race and equity based narratives.  Being a national trend, it appears the support for race based narratives is crumbling from the ground up.  That&#8217;s real democracy in action.</p>
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		By: Spencer Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spencer Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2023 01:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/reality-of-todays-appraisal-environment-n-discriminatory-falsehood/#comment-39257&quot;&gt;Charles Baker&lt;/a&gt;.

I like this. Where did you get the information from?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/reality-of-todays-appraisal-environment-n-discriminatory-falsehood/#comment-39257">Charles Baker</a>.</p>
<p>I like this. Where did you get the information from?</p>
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		By: Charles Baker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2023 00:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are about 70,000 licensed appraisers and about ten million appraisals were performed in 2020-2021 in the U.S. The fact that “dozens” of cases of bias (per the New York Times) have been alleged, let alone proven, is remarkable. While a single case of bias is lamentable, the fact that less than 0.0004% (four ten-thousandth of a percent) of cases are alleged to have been biased is clearly indicative of how unbiased our profession is. It is a testament of how critically important our work is against the backdrop of pressure from all sides, coupled with our meager compensation. A SIX SIGMA result should be celebrated and held up as a de facto standard for all professional practice groups. 

The typical residential real estate appraisal is about 30 pages long. Let’s assume there have been six dozen cases of alleged bias (“dozens”, per the New York Times). The stack of allegedly biased appraisals would stand about 9 inches tall.  If all ten million appraisals were stacked on top of each other it would stand almost 19 miles high.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are about 70,000 licensed appraisers and about ten million appraisals were performed in 2020-2021 in the U.S. The fact that “dozens” of cases of bias (per the New York Times) have been alleged, let alone proven, is remarkable. While a single case of bias is lamentable, the fact that less than 0.0004% (four ten-thousandth of a percent) of cases are alleged to have been biased is clearly indicative of how unbiased our profession is. It is a testament of how critically important our work is against the backdrop of pressure from all sides, coupled with our meager compensation. A SIX SIGMA result should be celebrated and held up as a de facto standard for all professional practice groups. </p>
<p>The typical residential real estate appraisal is about 30 pages long. Let’s assume there have been six dozen cases of alleged bias (“dozens”, per the New York Times). The stack of allegedly biased appraisals would stand about 9 inches tall.  If all ten million appraisals were stacked on top of each other it would stand almost 19 miles high.</p>
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		By: PD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2023 11:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/reality-of-todays-appraisal-environment-n-discriminatory-falsehood/#comment-39247&quot;&gt;Guaranteed Value Everytime&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely,. That and &quot;show me the money&quot; regardless if the real estate, with the &quot;desired&quot; over-valuation, can&#039;t support the target amount wanted. Sure, how can appraisers not get this through their thick skulls. Makes perfect sense if you live on Krypton. Isn&#039;t this the exact scenario why licensing came to be?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/reality-of-todays-appraisal-environment-n-discriminatory-falsehood/#comment-39247">Guaranteed Value Everytime</a>.</p>
<p>Absolutely,. That and &#8220;show me the money&#8221; regardless if the real estate, with the &#8220;desired&#8221; over-valuation, can&#8217;t support the target amount wanted. Sure, how can appraisers not get this through their thick skulls. Makes perfect sense if you live on Krypton. Isn&#8217;t this the exact scenario why licensing came to be?</p>
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		By: Spencer Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spencer Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2023 10:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/reality-of-todays-appraisal-environment-n-discriminatory-falsehood/#comment-39252&quot;&gt;Dave Towne&lt;/a&gt;.

That is disappointing. I’m one of those appraisers that include such comments in my reports. Just one of the many comments in my reports with CYA intentions…making my reports another two pages longer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/reality-of-todays-appraisal-environment-n-discriminatory-falsehood/#comment-39252">Dave Towne</a>.</p>
<p>That is disappointing. I’m one of those appraisers that include such comments in my reports. Just one of the many comments in my reports with CYA intentions…making my reports another two pages longer.</p>
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		By: Dave Towne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Towne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2023 06:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/reality-of-todays-appraisal-environment-n-discriminatory-falsehood/#comment-39249&quot;&gt;Spencer Paul&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, it WILL be included, based on my observation of a draft document of the upcoming &#039;dynamic&#039; forms.

This data point is used by lenders and the regulatory agencies to track lending activity everywhere in the US.  It&#039;s been on GSE forms (and even on some of the non-lending GP forms) since the GSE&#039;s took over the &quot;forms design&quot; process starting in the early 1980&#039;s.

From my discussions with appraisers, the Census Tract number is NOT RESEARCHED by appraisers when they are selecting comparables if they are doing their work per laws and guidelines.  Census Tract numbers have PERSONAL DEMOGRAPHIC info which we cannot use to consider which homes to use for comps.

However, the people who are trying to discredit appraisers as a profession ALWAYS use personal demographic Census data to justify why they think appraisers are biased and discriminatory.

Many mortgage lending appraisers are now including statements in reports saying that they did not consider any Census demographic data in their research and analysis for CYA purposes, in case their reports get reviewed or complaints are filed against them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/reality-of-todays-appraisal-environment-n-discriminatory-falsehood/#comment-39249">Spencer Paul</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, it WILL be included, based on my observation of a draft document of the upcoming &#8216;dynamic&#8217; forms.</p>
<p>This data point is used by lenders and the regulatory agencies to track lending activity everywhere in the US.  It&#8217;s been on GSE forms (and even on some of the non-lending GP forms) since the GSE&#8217;s took over the &#8220;forms design&#8221; process starting in the early 1980&#8217;s.</p>
<p>From my discussions with appraisers, the Census Tract number is NOT RESEARCHED by appraisers when they are selecting comparables if they are doing their work per laws and guidelines.  Census Tract numbers have PERSONAL DEMOGRAPHIC info which we cannot use to consider which homes to use for comps.</p>
<p>However, the people who are trying to discredit appraisers as a profession ALWAYS use personal demographic Census data to justify why they think appraisers are biased and discriminatory.</p>
<p>Many mortgage lending appraisers are now including statements in reports saying that they did not consider any Census demographic data in their research and analysis for CYA purposes, in case their reports get reviewed or complaints are filed against them.</p>
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		By: PD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2023 21:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let me say and I believe I speak for most, the only color I see when I appraise is the color of the house. I digress to something I&#039;ve brought up in the past. If appraisers are considered racist, why then are the Realtors, Assessors and valuation companies not included in that group. After all, a Realtor is not going to over price a property as they are not in the business simply marketing with no reward. The Assessors are typically at the low end as they lag behind the market place. That said, none of these people complaining are questioning their assessments. Why,? Taxes. The same with the valuation companies. Bottom line it is only appraisers being unjustifiably bullied for simply being the messenger. We are fact finders, not enablers. It amazes me how many intelligent people turn to mush, throwing all reason  aside and not educating themselves simply to feel good about themselves. It is all self-serving with no rhyme or reason. WAKE UP public servants and take time to educate yourselves before you become judge, jury and exacutioner. From my perspective, and the peers I know, we simply perform our job, as intended with no agenda or bias. But that of course is totally untrue to some as we are evil, despicable  individuals out to get people of ethic groups other than white. Appraisers can especially see through the absurdity of the accusation since they&#039;ve completed their due deligence. I can&#039;t fathom the fact people are actually saying this (then again, I can) but why not? Scream racism and everone does the knee jerk think and politicians run for cover without a clue about the appraisal process. Proof of this is addional laws against bias that are already part of appraiser licensing. It is redundant and rediculous suggesting no politician has a clue what they are talking about. Did any of them take the time to consult with their own licensing board? Probably not. Call it what it is, a money grab in most cases, especially refinances as there are not as many complaints when it comes to sales. The favored vehicle to accomplish this is one word, racism. I hate to be brutally honest but if the shoe fits, wear it. I&#039;ve never heard of anyone complain if they believe their appraised value to too high (with the exception of the assessed value of course). It boils down to common sense so everyone needs to step back, ignore the smoke and mirrors and get on with the business of business. So you know, I&#039;m not synical. I am writing for the majority and not the minority. Of course, in any profession, there are the good and the bad with some complaints having merit but the blanket of &quot;guilty as charged&quot; should not be thrown over an entire industry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me say and I believe I speak for most, the only color I see when I appraise is the color of the house. I digress to something I&#8217;ve brought up in the past. If appraisers are considered racist, why then are the Realtors, Assessors and valuation companies not included in that group. After all, a Realtor is not going to over price a property as they are not in the business simply marketing with no reward. The Assessors are typically at the low end as they lag behind the market place. That said, none of these people complaining are questioning their assessments. Why,? Taxes. The same with the valuation companies. Bottom line it is only appraisers being unjustifiably bullied for simply being the messenger. We are fact finders, not enablers. It amazes me how many intelligent people turn to mush, throwing all reason  aside and not educating themselves simply to feel good about themselves. It is all self-serving with no rhyme or reason. WAKE UP public servants and take time to educate yourselves before you become judge, jury and exacutioner. From my perspective, and the peers I know, we simply perform our job, as intended with no agenda or bias. But that of course is totally untrue to some as we are evil, despicable  individuals out to get people of ethic groups other than white. Appraisers can especially see through the absurdity of the accusation since they&#8217;ve completed their due deligence. I can&#8217;t fathom the fact people are actually saying this (then again, I can) but why not? Scream racism and everone does the knee jerk think and politicians run for cover without a clue about the appraisal process. Proof of this is addional laws against bias that are already part of appraiser licensing. It is redundant and rediculous suggesting no politician has a clue what they are talking about. Did any of them take the time to consult with their own licensing board? Probably not. Call it what it is, a money grab in most cases, especially refinances as there are not as many complaints when it comes to sales. The favored vehicle to accomplish this is one word, racism. I hate to be brutally honest but if the shoe fits, wear it. I&#8217;ve never heard of anyone complain if they believe their appraised value to too high (with the exception of the assessed value of course). It boils down to common sense so everyone needs to step back, ignore the smoke and mirrors and get on with the business of business. So you know, I&#8217;m not synical. I am writing for the majority and not the minority. Of course, in any profession, there are the good and the bad with some complaints having merit but the blanket of &#8220;guilty as charged&#8221; should not be thrown over an entire industry.</p>
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		By: Spencer Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spencer Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2023 20:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/reality-of-todays-appraisal-environment-n-discriminatory-falsehood/#comment-39248&quot;&gt;Loidene&lt;/a&gt;.

I believe the new forms will not have the census track in the report itself. The GSE can track that information without it being in the actual report. What I&#039;m hoping for is no ENV format with the new forms, but I doubt that will take place.]]></description>
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<p>I believe the new forms will not have the census track in the report itself. The GSE can track that information without it being in the actual report. What I&#8217;m hoping for is no ENV format with the new forms, but I doubt that will take place.</p>
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		By: Loidene		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loidene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2023 18:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope the new FNMA forms don&#039;t include the Census Track information. Let&#039;s take that one out of the narrative!!! 

I think FNMA should make a booklet to give to all borrowers, Agents/Brokers, and Lenders on the process the appraiser works through to derive their OPINION of Value, with excerpts from FNMA&#039;s Required Forms, and the State Rules which already prohibit discrimination. I can&#039;t imagine any appraiser risking their License / Certification to knowingly discriminate for what $350-$1000. Really, Educate the ones using the OPINION of Value, dictating and perpetuating discrimination, and we might stop some of this insanity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the new FNMA forms don&#8217;t include the Census Track information. Let&#8217;s take that one out of the narrative!!! </p>
<p>I think FNMA should make a booklet to give to all borrowers, Agents/Brokers, and Lenders on the process the appraiser works through to derive their OPINION of Value, with excerpts from FNMA&#8217;s Required Forms, and the State Rules which already prohibit discrimination. I can&#8217;t imagine any appraiser risking their License / Certification to knowingly discriminate for what $350-$1000. Really, Educate the ones using the OPINION of Value, dictating and perpetuating discrimination, and we might stop some of this insanity.</p>
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		By: Guaranteed Value Everytime		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guaranteed Value Everytime]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2023 17:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is an easy fix. Just make certain, if you&#039;re a white appraiser and the borrower is any other color than yourself, that you make or exceed the value they want....no matter what that amount is. Done. Isn&#039;t that....what they want?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an easy fix. Just make certain, if you&#8217;re a white appraiser and the borrower is any other color than yourself, that you make or exceed the value they want&#8230;.no matter what that amount is. Done. Isn&#8217;t that&#8230;.what they want?</p>
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