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		By: Jennifer Tulenko		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer Tulenko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2021 14:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wonderful article which has my absolute and unwavering support. It has always astounded me that when an appraisal doesn&#039;t make value (for what that means) or  a homeowner defaults the person everyone turns to is the appraiser; somehow accountability falls nowhere or anyone else.  To suggest that appraiser is bias or racist because market conditions and property values are lower in some neighborhoods than others is an opinion rooted  more to a political narrative and agenda  than in actual statistical market data for which we work from.  Every state, town and community throughout this country consists of neighborhoods made up of all racial, ethnic and socioeconomic parameters and in the appraisal process they are each measured on their own accord.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful article which has my absolute and unwavering support. It has always astounded me that when an appraisal doesn&#8217;t make value (for what that means) or  a homeowner defaults the person everyone turns to is the appraiser; somehow accountability falls nowhere or anyone else.  To suggest that appraiser is bias or racist because market conditions and property values are lower in some neighborhoods than others is an opinion rooted  more to a political narrative and agenda  than in actual statistical market data for which we work from.  Every state, town and community throughout this country consists of neighborhoods made up of all racial, ethnic and socioeconomic parameters and in the appraisal process they are each measured on their own accord.</p>
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		By: Cathy Lynn Harper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cathy Lynn Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2021 23:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article Maureen! We are lucky to have you representing our industry! Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Maureen! We are lucky to have you representing our industry! Thank you!</p>
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		By: Scott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2021 15:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bravo, Maureen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Maureen!</p>
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		By: Annemieke Roell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annemieke Roell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2021 02:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article, Maureen.

No appraiser in their right mind would undervalue a property.  Appraisers spend a lot of time and money to become licensed and they won&#039;t take a chance to lose it.  Does bias exist? Sure.. But it is not as wide spread as some would like us to think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Maureen.</p>
<p>No appraiser in their right mind would undervalue a property.  Appraisers spend a lot of time and money to become licensed and they won&#8217;t take a chance to lose it.  Does bias exist? Sure.. But it is not as wide spread as some would like us to think.</p>
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		By: Garth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Garth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 13:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/racial-bias-in-real-estate-is-it-the-property-appraisers-fault/#comment-32070&quot;&gt;garth&lt;/a&gt;.

Response: No NOT being sued. Running through my mind the endless  implications = E&#038;O, attorney, $$$, time-STRESS, the AB &#038; all other witch-hunt bull, &#038; then trying to clear your name with the impact of PRE-judgment.
Don&#039;t think I could get through it UNLESS &quot;the principle&quot; of my STELLER reputation drives my anger.

Based UPON our current USPAP, GSE typical instructions, etc, etc: Saying Again: HOW could a professional appraiser CHOOSE grid comparisons TO BENEFIT the BORROWER? Conversely: turn a &quot;blind eye&quot; &#038; NOT know the market in which one is appraising?  Am I now expected to void the best sales &#038;&#038;&#038; GO miles away from the subject neighborhood to superior Market Locations? 
I&#039;LL QUIT FIRST!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/racial-bias-in-real-estate-is-it-the-property-appraisers-fault/#comment-32070">garth</a>.</p>
<p>Response: No NOT being sued. Running through my mind the endless  implications = E&amp;O, attorney, $$$, time-STRESS, the AB &amp; all other witch-hunt bull, &amp; then trying to clear your name with the impact of PRE-judgment.<br />
Don&#8217;t think I could get through it UNLESS &#8220;the principle&#8221; of my STELLER reputation drives my anger.</p>
<p>Based UPON our current USPAP, GSE typical instructions, etc, etc: Saying Again: HOW could a professional appraiser CHOOSE grid comparisons TO BENEFIT the BORROWER? Conversely: turn a &#8220;blind eye&#8221; &amp; NOT know the market in which one is appraising?  Am I now expected to void the best sales &amp;&amp;&amp; GO miles away from the subject neighborhood to superior Market Locations?<br />
I&#8217;LL QUIT FIRST!</p>
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		By: Tom Horn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Horn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 02:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great rebuttal to the current trend in blaming appraisers. Thank you Maureen for your thoughtful and thorough analysis. Appraisers do not make the market we just report it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great rebuttal to the current trend in blaming appraisers. Thank you Maureen for your thoughtful and thorough analysis. Appraisers do not make the market we just report it.</p>
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		By: Laurie Egan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laurie Egan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 02:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wonderfully said, Maureen.  Thank you for this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderfully said, Maureen.  Thank you for this.</p>
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		By: Jo Ann Meyer Stratton, IFA, SRA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jo Ann Meyer Stratton, IFA, SRA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 00:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent comments, very well written Maureen.+]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent comments, very well written Maureen.+</p>
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		By: Pat Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 23:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was a great piece of work!!

I wonder where all the silence is coming from? Oh no it’s not silence, it again is called rolling over.

I am proud to know Maureen and that she put forth this masterpiece. VaCap supports her position.

We would be honored to attract new members and a wider group.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a great piece of work!!</p>
<p>I wonder where all the silence is coming from? Oh no it’s not silence, it again is called rolling over.</p>
<p>I am proud to know Maureen and that she put forth this masterpiece. VaCap supports her position.</p>
<p>We would be honored to attract new members and a wider group.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 22:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/racial-bias-in-real-estate-is-it-the-property-appraisers-fault/#comment-32077&quot;&gt;New Era Appraisals&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, such has been the sentiment among appraisers for the past decade.  The CFPB&#039;s &#039;safe harbor rule&#039; on C&#038;R fees which allowed amc&#039;s to rake variable portions of the appraisal fee and not return cost savings to consumers, drove countless of the best appraisers out of mortgage lending already.  It appears at this time, more pressure is being applied to appraisers.  Automate away the few remaining appraisers whom want to help regular mortgage borrowers.  The proper way to handle a more equitably applied engagement for everyone would be to review other causal factors in associated industries, as mentioned and linked in the above article.

I&#039;ll reiterate my hope that the ongoing violations of the original spirit of the Customary and Reasonable rule by amc middle management companies still bears a chance at being the largest class action in history.  These amc companies have raked billions of dollars out of the appraisal industry, driving down quality standards and experience base as a result.  Over half of all appraisers have already reportedly refused mortgage origination work across the board because of amc&#039;s.  A generally decreased quality of appraisal and excessive outsourcing of vital appraisal duties has been the result.  I saved the Dave Biggers email on this matter, circa 2010.  The most basic question of appraisal service quality; were these accused appraisers subjected to the pressures of the amc industry?  If so, the culpability also tracks back to the lenders whom chose to outsource the appraisal distribution duties to amc&#039;s, driving down the appraisers fees and resources to do the job properly in the process.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/racial-bias-in-real-estate-is-it-the-property-appraisers-fault/#comment-32077">New Era Appraisals</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, such has been the sentiment among appraisers for the past decade.  The CFPB&#8217;s &#8216;safe harbor rule&#8217; on C&amp;R fees which allowed amc&#8217;s to rake variable portions of the appraisal fee and not return cost savings to consumers, drove countless of the best appraisers out of mortgage lending already.  It appears at this time, more pressure is being applied to appraisers.  Automate away the few remaining appraisers whom want to help regular mortgage borrowers.  The proper way to handle a more equitably applied engagement for everyone would be to review other causal factors in associated industries, as mentioned and linked in the above article.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll reiterate my hope that the ongoing violations of the original spirit of the Customary and Reasonable rule by amc middle management companies still bears a chance at being the largest class action in history.  These amc companies have raked billions of dollars out of the appraisal industry, driving down quality standards and experience base as a result.  Over half of all appraisers have already reportedly refused mortgage origination work across the board because of amc&#8217;s.  A generally decreased quality of appraisal and excessive outsourcing of vital appraisal duties has been the result.  I saved the Dave Biggers email on this matter, circa 2010.  The most basic question of appraisal service quality; were these accused appraisers subjected to the pressures of the amc industry?  If so, the culpability also tracks back to the lenders whom chose to outsource the appraisal distribution duties to amc&#8217;s, driving down the appraisers fees and resources to do the job properly in the process.<br />
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		By: New Era Appraisals		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 21:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great write-up Maureen! In the absence of evidence and information about the appraisals in question, I fear that some appraisers may decide to taper their GSE related work in favor of private work. I truly want these cases to be investigated by a competent review board. At this time it seems that the media and government only want to broadcast this narrative and legislate without actually investigating the facts. Appraisers have never had a voice on the national stage when there is a conversation pertaining to appraisal practice. I fear that this will never change. 


In my humble opinion, Mike Ford, Jan Bellas and Mark Skapinetz at the AGA have done more for the boots on the ground appraiser than any other organization. Notable mentions to VaCAP for all the hard work they do both locally and nationally. I wish VaCAP would expand their coverage to Maryland and the District of Columbia.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great write-up Maureen! In the absence of evidence and information about the appraisals in question, I fear that some appraisers may decide to taper their GSE related work in favor of private work. I truly want these cases to be investigated by a competent review board. At this time it seems that the media and government only want to broadcast this narrative and legislate without actually investigating the facts. Appraisers have never had a voice on the national stage when there is a conversation pertaining to appraisal practice. I fear that this will never change. </p>
<p>In my humble opinion, Mike Ford, Jan Bellas and Mark Skapinetz at the AGA have done more for the boots on the ground appraiser than any other organization. Notable mentions to VaCAP for all the hard work they do both locally and nationally. I wish VaCAP would expand their coverage to Maryland and the District of Columbia.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 20:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well researched.  Very informative.  Honest.  Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well researched.  Very informative.  Honest.  Thank you.</p>
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		By: Rachel Massey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel Massey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 20:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent synopsis and rebuttal Maureen. Sharing this!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent synopsis and rebuttal Maureen. Sharing this!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/racial-bias-in-real-estate-is-it-the-property-appraisers-fault/#comment-32070&quot;&gt;garth&lt;/a&gt;.

Garth, are you saying you are being sued for &quot;racism&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/racial-bias-in-real-estate-is-it-the-property-appraisers-fault/#comment-32070">garth</a>.</p>
<p>Garth, are you saying you are being sued for &#8220;racism&#8221;?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 19:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent article. Thank you Maureen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article. Thank you Maureen!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[garth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 18:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WOW impressive! Could you send that to NBC,ABC, CBS, FOX &#038;&#038;&#038; Pres&#039; Biden

Basically, once I&#039;m sued ...I&#039;m scr_wed! 

Factually, I have never been biased in my life or over the past 36 years as an appraiser.

Not even sure how that could happen WHEN you follow basic GSE &#038; Lender appraisal order instructions.

Thanks for the article]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW impressive! Could you send that to NBC,ABC, CBS, FOX &amp;&amp;&amp; Pres&#8217; Biden</p>
<p>Basically, once I&#8217;m sued &#8230;I&#8217;m scr_wed! </p>
<p>Factually, I have never been biased in my life or over the past 36 years as an appraiser.</p>
<p>Not even sure how that could happen WHEN you follow basic GSE &amp; Lender appraisal order instructions.</p>
<p>Thanks for the article</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well Said Maureen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Said Maureen!</p>
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