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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-20180</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2018 20:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I ran an RPR on my own property EXCEPT that I did not do any adjustments which is one of the options or requirements for the Realtor® to generate a &#8220;valuation report&#8221; (They can generate other reports that show dollar ranges that aren&#8217;t called valuation reports).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ALL the physical characteristics were wrong (ok, only 90% - they appear to have gotten the lot size right). The CMA comps were all from 200 sf to 250 sf larger (roughly 10% to 15% larger); Unit mix was mostly higher. Most probable range per RPR was &lt;strong&gt;$497k to $650k&lt;/strong&gt;. A lot of &lt;em&gt;inferred&lt;/em&gt; weight near $550k. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;My personal belief is that the lowest end of the indicated range is about 10%+- too high&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. (Even though the price per sf was skewed low due to over size comparables being used). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Most comps provided were three to four units. Only one was a similar 2 on a lot (duplex). I did not use the adjustments function at all. It would be interesting to see what my local agents would have put in. From the data provided I could easily show support for a $550 to $600k price. Several comps included are properties I know to be high flips. In my neighborhood I find it hard to believe they didn&#8217;t include &#8216;creative&#8217; financing and inducements - but I could be wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The BIGGEST omission in the entire report are permit issues for permits pulled dating back to 1951; updated in 2001 and arbitrarily VOIDED sometime after we bought the property in &#8217;09 and verified permits (we think voiding was 2011 but cant verify). MAJOR impact on marketability. Amount? Who knows. IF City keeps playing hardball it could render top story and major additions to front and rear uninhabitable. Of course before that happens, they AND Wells Fargo (REO Seller) get sued.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Point is that RPR CANNOT identify these kinds of issues. Worse case scenario is property would become unmarketable. I think most would agree that would be a pretty big deal for most lenders. BTW, its a HUD/FHA loan. Appraiser did a GOOD job. No recourse there. He verified permits and correction notices individually by permit numbers - two years before city deleted that data from their old website. We had refused to close escrow til that was resolved. I personally cross checked the verifications and confirmed them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If there were no permit issues, then the low end of range comp property backing up to the 710 freeway would be the most probable value indicator but even that would be a tough call. I still think it&#8217;s high.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran an RPR on my own property EXCEPT that I did not do any adjustments which is one of the options or requirements for the Realtor® to generate a &#8220;valuation report&#8221; (They can generate other reports that show dollar ranges that aren&#8217;t called valuation reports).</p>
<p>ALL the physical characteristics were wrong (ok, only 90% &#8211; they appear to have gotten the lot size right). The CMA comps were all from 200 sf to 250 sf larger (roughly 10% to 15% larger); Unit mix was mostly higher. Most probable range per RPR was <strong>$497k to $650k</strong>. A lot of <em>inferred</em> weight near $550k. <strong><em>My personal belief is that the lowest end of the indicated range is about 10%+- too high</em></strong>. (Even though the price per sf was skewed low due to over size comparables being used). </p>
<p>Most comps provided were three to four units. Only one was a similar 2 on a lot (duplex). I did not use the adjustments function at all. It would be interesting to see what my local agents would have put in. From the data provided I could easily show support for a $550 to $600k price. Several comps included are properties I know to be high flips. In my neighborhood I find it hard to believe they didn&#8217;t include &#8216;creative&#8217; financing and inducements &#8211; but I could be wrong.</p>
<p>The BIGGEST omission in the entire report are permit issues for permits pulled dating back to 1951; updated in 2001 and arbitrarily VOIDED sometime after we bought the property in &#8217;09 and verified permits (we think voiding was 2011 but cant verify). MAJOR impact on marketability. Amount? Who knows. IF City keeps playing hardball it could render top story and major additions to front and rear uninhabitable. Of course before that happens, they AND Wells Fargo (REO Seller) get sued.</p>
<p>Point is that RPR CANNOT identify these kinds of issues. Worse case scenario is property would become unmarketable. I think most would agree that would be a pretty big deal for most lenders. BTW, its a HUD/FHA loan. Appraiser did a GOOD job. No recourse there. He verified permits and correction notices individually by permit numbers &#8211; two years before city deleted that data from their old website. We had refused to close escrow til that was resolved. I personally cross checked the verifications and confirmed them.</p>
<p>If there were no permit issues, then the low end of range comp property backing up to the 710 freeway would be the most probable value indicator but even that would be a tough call. I still think it&#8217;s high.</p>
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		By: Retired Appraiser		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15312</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Retired Appraiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15308&quot;&gt;Wayne&lt;/a&gt;.

After 3 years of fighting AMCs and HVCC on my own I chose to follow the best advice that&#039;s ever been written on appraisal slavery and extortion. I strongly recommend posting this quote on your mirror appraisers and reading it daily.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15308">Wayne</a>.</p>
<p>After 3 years of fighting AMCs and HVCC on my own I chose to follow the best advice that&#8217;s ever been written on appraisal slavery and extortion. I strongly recommend posting this quote on your mirror appraisers and reading it daily.</p>
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		By: Retired Appraiser		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15311</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Retired Appraiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 22:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15308&quot;&gt;Wayne&lt;/a&gt;.

Frederick Douglass may as well have been speaking about the appraisal profession when he made this comment. The statement is as true today for appraisers as it was over a it was for slavery over a century ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15308">Wayne</a>.</p>
<p>Frederick Douglass may as well have been speaking about the appraisal profession when he made this comment. The statement is as true today for appraisers as it was over a it was for slavery over a century ago.</p>
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		By: Retired Appraiser		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15310</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Retired Appraiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 21:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15308&quot;&gt;Wayne&lt;/a&gt;.

Unfortunately appraisers see this when they look in a mirror Wayne: A spineless weakling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15308">Wayne</a>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately appraisers see this when they look in a mirror Wayne: A spineless weakling.</p>
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		By: Diana N.		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15309</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diana N.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wayne, your comment is worth a lot more than two cents and as usual, right on the money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne, your comment is worth a lot more than two cents and as usual, right on the money.</p>
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		By: Wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can only think of one group that can solve this problem quickly and completely. That group is those of us in the appraisal industry. Yep...those of us that do this each and every day. We are the ones that can fix it. Take Corelogic for example....If you use Marshall &#038; Swift Valuation Services...give a guess as to who owns them? Do you take your continuing education from the Lincoln Institute...Let&#039;s guess again who now owns them.

How about this EXPO foolishness? Are you one that pays to go hear what a &quot;GURU&quot; at an AMC has to say? Really....some of us need to purchase a mirror and take a close look at the problem! Just my two cents....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only think of one group that can solve this problem quickly and completely. That group is those of us in the appraisal industry. Yep&#8230;those of us that do this each and every day. We are the ones that can fix it. Take Corelogic for example&#8230;.If you use Marshall &amp; Swift Valuation Services&#8230;give a guess as to who owns them? Do you take your continuing education from the Lincoln Institute&#8230;Let&#8217;s guess again who now owns them.</p>
<p>How about this EXPO foolishness? Are you one that pays to go hear what a &#8220;GURU&#8221; at an AMC has to say? Really&#8230;.some of us need to purchase a mirror and take a close look at the problem! Just my two cents&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Koma		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15306</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Koma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2016 22:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/online-valuations-vs-trained-appraiser/#comment-15302&quot;&gt;Ross Grannan on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

Us of course the ones with the money (E&#038;O)!]]></description>
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<p>Us of course the ones with the money (E&amp;O)!</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2016 20:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Corelogic has the instant 3 up deal, but it&#039;s essentially the same thing. Everyone and their mother thinks they&#039;ve got what it takes to be a sales agent these days. At this point the most effective thing we can do is also double as financial educators. People often ask me about best methods to get ahead in these mortgage markets, strategy, etc. My response; The only way to beat the mortgage markets is to not participate. You don&#039;t own this home until the final payment is satisfied. Sadly the majority of mortgage seekers don&#039;t even know a 15 year is an option. Financial education in this country is at an all time low.

Thanks Hamp, like your articles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corelogic has the instant 3 up deal, but it&#8217;s essentially the same thing. Everyone and their mother thinks they&#8217;ve got what it takes to be a sales agent these days. At this point the most effective thing we can do is also double as financial educators. People often ask me about best methods to get ahead in these mortgage markets, strategy, etc. My response; The only way to beat the mortgage markets is to not participate. You don&#8217;t own this home until the final payment is satisfied. Sadly the majority of mortgage seekers don&#8217;t even know a 15 year is an option. Financial education in this country is at an all time low.</p>
<p>Thanks Hamp, like your articles.</p>
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		By: Gary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2016 16:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know if there are any stats for how many BPO or AVM loans went down the tubes. I am in CT and it&#039;s only one of four states (for now) that do not allow BPOs.

Just curious, as most of the crash was blamed appraisers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if there are any stats for how many BPO or AVM loans went down the tubes. I am in CT and it&#8217;s only one of four states (for now) that do not allow BPOs.</p>
<p>Just curious, as most of the crash was blamed appraisers.</p>
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		By: Diana N.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diana N.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2016 16:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here goes the market down the tubes again. Glad I&#039;m getting ready to retire before it hits the fan again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here goes the market down the tubes again. Glad I&#8217;m getting ready to retire before it hits the fan again.</p>
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		By: Ross Grannan on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ross Grannan on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So when financing goes south when actual appraisal is done or the owner tries to sell, whose a$$ is going to fry ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when financing goes south when actual appraisal is done or the owner tries to sell, whose a$$ is going to fry ?</p>
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