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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31867</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2021 15:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just use the search tool in the upper right corner of this site, there are many many articles and rich blogging commentary for those interested in reviewing the ongoing appraisers are racist drama, I think well over a year now.

Agreed, why is the lower valuation always defacto, wrong?  And what exactly is wrong with lower pricing in housing?  High price areas are so awful, we are now competing with big city income from across the country and permanent remote from home positions here in the country.  So much for the local economy driving real estate.  An entire segment of people from enjoyable upper middle class income and below are instantly outpaced and excluded from their own markets in the higher priced climate.  That is the real result of higher house pricing and these fed central planners economic incentives, massive social and economic displacement which is very disrupting to peoples lives.   Be careful what you wish for.  

The solution to mitigating the amc issue remains incredibly simple, force the amc to bill separately for their distinctly different service.  Amc&#039;s do not provide appraisals.  The amc provides an administrative function which is optional to the lending process, which should be billed for separately.  

One of the funniest listing photos seen lately.  Enter stage left, the pineapple and banana shot.  Because when I&#039;m taking house photos or reviewing a home for purchase, pineapples and bananas.  Curious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just use the search tool in the upper right corner of this site, there are many many articles and rich blogging commentary for those interested in reviewing the ongoing appraisers are racist drama, I think well over a year now.</p>
<p>Agreed, why is the lower valuation always defacto, wrong?  And what exactly is wrong with lower pricing in housing?  High price areas are so awful, we are now competing with big city income from across the country and permanent remote from home positions here in the country.  So much for the local economy driving real estate.  An entire segment of people from enjoyable upper middle class income and below are instantly outpaced and excluded from their own markets in the higher priced climate.  That is the real result of higher house pricing and these fed central planners economic incentives, massive social and economic displacement which is very disrupting to peoples lives.   Be careful what you wish for.  </p>
<p>The solution to mitigating the amc issue remains incredibly simple, force the amc to bill separately for their distinctly different service.  Amc&#8217;s do not provide appraisals.  The amc provides an administrative function which is optional to the lending process, which should be billed for separately.  </p>
<p>One of the funniest listing photos seen lately.  Enter stage left, the pineapple and banana shot.  Because when I&#8217;m taking house photos or reviewing a home for purchase, pineapples and bananas.  Curious.</p>
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		By: AppraisersBlogs Team		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AppraisersBlogs Team]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 18:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31863&quot;&gt;JULIO E SUNE, JR&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re absolutely correct. We&#039;ve edited the post to reflect your recommendation. Thanks Julio!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31863">JULIO E SUNE, JR</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely correct. We&#8217;ve edited the post to reflect your recommendation. Thanks Julio!</p>
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		By: JULIO E SUNE, JR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JULIO E SUNE, JR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 15:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GENTLEMEN:

&quot;We encourage lively conversation but we do insist that you follow our guidelines. Threats, the use of hateful language, or personal attacks is a violation of our guidelines.&quot;  [ABT]

In addition....the following is posted with utmost respect and best intentions....

Kindly, please refer to APPRAISAL as a profession not as an industry.....

The practice of the appraiser is a profession - not just a business or a skilled trade. While the elements of gain and service are present in both, the difference between a business and a profession is essentially this: the chief end of a trade or business is personal gain; the chief end of a profession is public service and trust..

Industry
Economic activity concerned with the processing of raw materials and manufacture of goods in factories.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GENTLEMEN:</p>
<p>&#8220;We encourage lively conversation but we do insist that you follow our guidelines. Threats, the use of hateful language, or personal attacks is a violation of our guidelines.&#8221;  [ABT]</p>
<p>In addition&#8230;.the following is posted with utmost respect and best intentions&#8230;.</p>
<p>Kindly, please refer to APPRAISAL as a profession not as an industry&#8230;..</p>
<p>The practice of the appraiser is a profession &#8211; not just a business or a skilled trade. While the elements of gain and service are present in both, the difference between a business and a profession is essentially this: the chief end of a trade or business is personal gain; the chief end of a profession is public service and trust..</p>
<p>Industry<br />
Economic activity concerned with the processing of raw materials and manufacture of goods in factories.</p>
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		By: Bill Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 13:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31853&quot;&gt;LVAppraiser&lt;/a&gt;.

More of a 3 Musketeers guy so no thanks LVAppraiser. 

Seeking the truth, telling the truth, censoring of the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31853">LVAppraiser</a>.</p>
<p>More of a 3 Musketeers guy so no thanks LVAppraiser. </p>
<p>Seeking the truth, telling the truth, censoring of the truth.</p>
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		By: Anon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 01:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31859&quot;&gt;NVAPPRAISER&lt;/a&gt;.

You’re right, thanks for opening my eyes….have a good night.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31859">NVAPPRAISER</a>.</p>
<p>You’re right, thanks for opening my eyes….have a good night.</p>
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		By: NVAPPRAISER		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NVAPPRAISER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2021 01:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31858&quot;&gt;anon&lt;/a&gt;.

what’s not to understand here.     That statement is saying that no one has shown any evidence To the accusations being made and that the OTHER SIDE hasn’t been shown nor made public.  We are seeing only one side of this.  What’s not to understand about what was said?   Have you seen any articles or any statements that have shown the appraisals?  The values? The appraiser experience? Their location? Their comps chosen? Their adjustments?   No.  So clearly you are the one taking it the incorrect way.   

You talk about a study.  What study?   No one is saying it’s common.  The video is clear that we are only hearing ONE SIDE OF THIS]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31858">anon</a>.</p>
<p>what’s not to understand here.     That statement is saying that no one has shown any evidence To the accusations being made and that the OTHER SIDE hasn’t been shown nor made public.  We are seeing only one side of this.  What’s not to understand about what was said?   Have you seen any articles or any statements that have shown the appraisals?  The values? The appraiser experience? Their location? Their comps chosen? Their adjustments?   No.  So clearly you are the one taking it the incorrect way.   </p>
<p>You talk about a study.  What study?   No one is saying it’s common.  The video is clear that we are only hearing ONE SIDE OF THIS</p>
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		By: anon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 23:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31857&quot;&gt;NVAPPRAISER&lt;/a&gt;.

Did you read the work and watch the explanation by the team that wrote it? You seem to be very emotional about the topic. Which is kinda the problem.

&quot;What we don’t know is the other side of it. We don’t know the appraiser side of it. We haven’t seen any of the information that was based on these appraisals… I think there needs to be more in depth dive into these appraisals… there needs to be some sort of collaboration and to get some experts involved to review these reports…&quot;

That is in the above article. That statement assumes that racial bias in appraisal is common. The study results and discussion suggest this is not the case. I&#039;m not sure why you have a disconnect on this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31857">NVAPPRAISER</a>.</p>
<p>Did you read the work and watch the explanation by the team that wrote it? You seem to be very emotional about the topic. Which is kinda the problem.</p>
<p>&#8220;What we don’t know is the other side of it. We don’t know the appraiser side of it. We haven’t seen any of the information that was based on these appraisals… I think there needs to be more in depth dive into these appraisals… there needs to be some sort of collaboration and to get some experts involved to review these reports…&#8221;</p>
<p>That is in the above article. That statement assumes that racial bias in appraisal is common. The study results and discussion suggest this is not the case. I&#8217;m not sure why you have a disconnect on this.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NVAPPRAISER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 23:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31856&quot;&gt;anon&lt;/a&gt;.

what the hell are you even talking about?   You’re whole post makes 0sense in nature.  Please elaborate…]]></description>
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<p>what the hell are you even talking about?   You’re whole post makes 0sense in nature.  Please elaborate…</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 23:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[....I mean, we kinda went over this already didn&#039;t we. Please stop with the lip-service and read what was already reviewed. This study was exhaustive. If you have comments or think the study was flawed then comment on how and why the study was flawed; but based on the outcomes of the work, it does not seem that &quot;racial bias&quot; is common.

https://www.aei.org/how-common-is-appraiser-racial-bias/

Why we&#039;re still pontificating over this is silly. It&#039;s just blatantly false. If it hurts your feelings....well data doesn&#039;t really care. I think this was even covered on this website.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.I mean, we kinda went over this already didn&#8217;t we. Please stop with the lip-service and read what was already reviewed. This study was exhaustive. If you have comments or think the study was flawed then comment on how and why the study was flawed; but based on the outcomes of the work, it does not seem that &#8220;racial bias&#8221; is common.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.aei.org/how-common-is-appraiser-racial-bias/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.aei.org/how-common-is-appraiser-racial-bias/</a></p>
<p>Why we&#8217;re still pontificating over this is silly. It&#8217;s just blatantly false. If it hurts your feelings&#8230;.well data doesn&#8217;t really care. I think this was even covered on this website.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 22:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31852&quot;&gt;Bill Johnson&lt;/a&gt;.

Bill and Sensible, we encourage lively conversation but we do insist that you follow our guidelines. Threats, the use of hateful language, or personal attacks is a violation of our guidelines. Your comments do nothing constructive. Using our blog to attack someone anonymously is a form of cowardice and is not permissible. Going forward, your comments will be moderated before being approved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31852">Bill Johnson</a>.</p>
<p>Bill and Sensible, we encourage lively conversation but we do insist that you follow our guidelines. Threats, the use of hateful language, or personal attacks is a violation of our guidelines. Your comments do nothing constructive. Using our blog to attack someone anonymously is a form of cowardice and is not permissible. Going forward, your comments will be moderated before being approved.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biden the clown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 21:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love the racism hoax! Everyone is racist today! The term racist has no meaning anymore! The fact there is zero evidence of racist just lies put out by newspapers who are no longer relevant. Philly inquire just printed a hoax hit piece. Needless to say I canceled my subscription. We are fully aware these articles are being pushed by that racist hate groups like BLM or an owner of an AVM. Nothing more then a hoax! Defund everything liberal and racist!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the racism hoax! Everyone is racist today! The term racist has no meaning anymore! The fact there is zero evidence of racist just lies put out by newspapers who are no longer relevant. Philly inquire just printed a hoax hit piece. Needless to say I canceled my subscription. We are fully aware these articles are being pushed by that racist hate groups like BLM or an owner of an AVM. Nothing more then a hoax! Defund everything liberal and racist!</p>
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		By: LVAppraiser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LVAppraiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 20:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31852&quot;&gt;Bill Johnson&lt;/a&gt;.

Bill.  Do you need a snickers?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31852">Bill Johnson</a>.</p>
<p>Bill.  Do you need a snickers?</p>
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		By: Bill Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 18:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31846&quot;&gt;Sensible&lt;/a&gt;.

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Keep in mind Sensible... 

A little good yes, but don&#039;t buy the coffee cups with their pictures on them to feed the machine.

Seek the truth.]]></description>
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<p>Keep in mind Sensible&#8230; </p>
<p>A little good yes, but don&#8217;t buy the coffee cups with their pictures on them to feed the machine.</p>
<p>Seek the truth.</p>
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		By: Denise Wright		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denise Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 16:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31849&quot;&gt;Dustin Harris&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed Dustin. I appreciate  the fact Mark took the time to talk about these appraiser issues. More than the Appraisal Institute is doing I might add.... I don&#039;t know who Sensible is but I don&#039;t believe he speaks for most of us appraisers. Since this person is hiding behind a pseudonym, maybe a troll?]]></description>
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<p>Agreed Dustin. I appreciate  the fact Mark took the time to talk about these appraiser issues. More than the Appraisal Institute is doing I might add&#8230;. I don&#8217;t know who Sensible is but I don&#8217;t believe he speaks for most of us appraisers. Since this person is hiding behind a pseudonym, maybe a troll?</p>
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		By: Dustin Harris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dustin Harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 16:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/lets-talk-racism-appraisal-waivers-fees-n-trainees/#comment-31846&quot;&gt;Sensible&lt;/a&gt;.

With respect, “Sensible,” Mark is a boots on the ground appraiser. He gets paid nothing to “run his mouth” and actually stick up for the profession. Be grateful not all appraisers are “too busy” to do something good.]]></description>
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<p>With respect, “Sensible,” Mark is a boots on the ground appraiser. He gets paid nothing to “run his mouth” and actually stick up for the profession. Be grateful not all appraisers are “too busy” to do something good.</p>
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		By: MD appraiser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MD appraiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 14:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent job exposing the lies Mark!!!]]></description>
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		By: Coach		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 14:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well said Mark! Thank you for being vocal about these issues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Mark! Thank you for being vocal about these issues.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2021 14:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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Actual &quot;boots on the ground&quot; appraisers don&#039;t have time for that crap right now - we have reports to finish.]]></description>
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<p>Actual &#8220;boots on the ground&#8221; appraisers don&#8217;t have time for that crap right now &#8211; we have reports to finish.</p>
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