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		By: don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2019 17:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/incomplete-data-provides-incomplete-assumptions-data-pollution-reality/#comment-27153&quot;&gt;Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®&lt;/a&gt;.

Doc stamps are only an indication of price paid. Escrow officers, Recording officers, developers, etc. Are frequently convinced to pay for more stamps, inflating the indicated price or to hide the extra stamps on another recorded page. verification more difficult than reading stamps. Are doc stamps paid on the extra guaranteed occupancy rents in escrow or discounted? Was a carpeting allowance accepted by the seller, or paid by the buyer? Appraisers are treated scandalously!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/incomplete-data-provides-incomplete-assumptions-data-pollution-reality/#comment-27153">Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®</a>.</p>
<p>Doc stamps are only an indication of price paid. Escrow officers, Recording officers, developers, etc. Are frequently convinced to pay for more stamps, inflating the indicated price or to hide the extra stamps on another recorded page. verification more difficult than reading stamps. Are doc stamps paid on the extra guaranteed occupancy rents in escrow or discounted? Was a carpeting allowance accepted by the seller, or paid by the buyer? Appraisers are treated scandalously!!!</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2019 20:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/incomplete-data-provides-incomplete-assumptions-data-pollution-reality/#comment-27151&quot;&gt;Cheryl Ferguson on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

Sure.  Because cash contribution to cover the spread difference between price and value is the legitimate mechanism by which market values increase.  Without cash contribution we may not be dealing with market increase by validated demand.  

It is the frequency of over valued instances that will pick up substantially if there is no human involved to make critical calls regarding relevance of data.  Interpreting listing notes, value in use, a distressed seller, a unique scenario, actually call agents for clarification, leased vs owned solar.  

Agents have this habit of clicking wildly inaccurate features into their listings sometimes.  The flow of polluted data will increase at a rapid pace once the person with the most propensity to clean up the data is gone, and that is the human full service long form appraiser.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/incomplete-data-provides-incomplete-assumptions-data-pollution-reality/#comment-27151">Cheryl Ferguson on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>Sure.  Because cash contribution to cover the spread difference between price and value is the legitimate mechanism by which market values increase.  Without cash contribution we may not be dealing with market increase by validated demand.  </p>
<p>It is the frequency of over valued instances that will pick up substantially if there is no human involved to make critical calls regarding relevance of data.  Interpreting listing notes, value in use, a distressed seller, a unique scenario, actually call agents for clarification, leased vs owned solar.  </p>
<p>Agents have this habit of clicking wildly inaccurate features into their listings sometimes.  The flow of polluted data will increase at a rapid pace once the person with the most propensity to clean up the data is gone, and that is the human full service long form appraiser.</p>
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		By: CO Appraiser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CO Appraiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2019 18:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I appraised a Denver property yesterday with a finished basement, which adds significant value in the market area.  Zillow comps were mostly properties without basements.  My value opinion difference was 28% greater than Zillow.  Another example of big data in, bad data out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appraised a Denver property yesterday with a finished basement, which adds significant value in the market area.  Zillow comps were mostly properties without basements.  My value opinion difference was 28% greater than Zillow.  Another example of big data in, bad data out.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2019 17:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/incomplete-data-provides-incomplete-assumptions-data-pollution-reality/#comment-27149&quot;&gt;CA Appraiser&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;d say one that makes up their own data claims dishonestly....but that&#039;s a redundancy. Imagine any appraiser who was 10% WRONG 90% of the time!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/incomplete-data-provides-incomplete-assumptions-data-pollution-reality/#comment-27149">CA Appraiser</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say one that makes up their own data claims dishonestly&#8230;.but that&#8217;s a redundancy. Imagine any appraiser who was 10% WRONG 90% of the time!</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2019 17:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JM I have a much better data pollution example complements of CoreLogic. 11602 Santa Monica Blvd., Los Angeles CA. Sold for $11,000,000 (confirmed) in 2018. Property reportedly sold again for $64,000,000+ in 2019 per CoreLogic. Actual documentary transfer fees (doc stamps) were $89,600. In the CIty of Los Angeles, that means a value of slightly above $19,911,000.  Stamps were taken directly from the Grant Deed Recording.

NO market transaction can be found to match ether the $64 million+ or $19 million+ &quot;sales&quot;.  So, even if the numbers had been correct, an AVM would be including non-open market, possible non-arms length transaction as a sale in any AVM.

Worse, since the numbers are NOT correct sale prices as reported by COreLogic, ANY AVM dependent on this transaction would be egregiously out of whack.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM I have a much better data pollution example complements of CoreLogic. 11602 Santa Monica Blvd., Los Angeles CA. Sold for $11,000,000 (confirmed) in 2018. Property reportedly sold again for $64,000,000+ in 2019 per CoreLogic. Actual documentary transfer fees (doc stamps) were $89,600. In the CIty of Los Angeles, that means a value of slightly above $19,911,000.  Stamps were taken directly from the Grant Deed Recording.</p>
<p>NO market transaction can be found to match ether the $64 million+ or $19 million+ &#8220;sales&#8221;.  So, even if the numbers had been correct, an AVM would be including non-open market, possible non-arms length transaction as a sale in any AVM.</p>
<p>Worse, since the numbers are NOT correct sale prices as reported by COreLogic, ANY AVM dependent on this transaction would be egregiously out of whack.</p>
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		By: Cheryl Ferguson on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cheryl Ferguson on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2019 17:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A property can sell for 5% above market value with or without an appraisal. We see this frequently. The buyer simply comes up with the additional funds to bridge to gap of the sales price and what can be financed.  Then that recorded sale is used by AVMs and appraisers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A property can sell for 5% above market value with or without an appraisal. We see this frequently. The buyer simply comes up with the additional funds to bridge to gap of the sales price and what can be financed.  Then that recorded sale is used by AVMs and appraisers.</p>
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		By: CA Appraiser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CA Appraiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What AVM company stated those numbers of 90% within +/-10% of the actual value?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What AVM company stated those numbers of 90% within +/-10% of the actual value?</p>
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