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		By: dale bailey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dale bailey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30942&quot;&gt;Mag Jones&lt;/a&gt;.

It is my opinion that what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.  Should frivolous suits be filed, the attorney and the claimant should be held liable for the same atrocity against the appraiser. Then fined and sanctioned. They must be able to think of the consequences and not just look for the gold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30942">Mag Jones</a>.</p>
<p>It is my opinion that what is good for the goose, is good for the gander.  Should frivolous suits be filed, the attorney and the claimant should be held liable for the same atrocity against the appraiser. Then fined and sanctioned. They must be able to think of the consequences and not just look for the gold.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, American Guild of Appraisers (AGA™)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, American Guild of Appraisers (AGA™)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2020 04:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-31042&quot;&gt;Charles Baker&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely correct. However, I don&#039;t think the proponents of the current trend of &#039;equity&#039; demands are concerned with market efficiency or investor requirements.

Im unwilling to concede even a tongue in cheek concession of replacing a non existent, alleged discrimination with actual discrimination.

Social &quot;Justice&quot; Warriors (SJWs) aren&#039;t looking for justice at all. If they were they wouldn&#039;t be relying on feel good euphemisms in lieu of facts. Nor would they believe that an entire race of people are incapable of competing on an equal footing...despite extensive proof to the contrary.

SJWs are looking for control. They want penalties against one race for no other reason than that race is different than their own. In itself, that defines their own racism.

No one achieves equality by penalizing other innocents. Certainly no one gains respect that way.

I&#039;m proud of my profession. I&#039;m proud of our ethical standards too. I have never seen or heard of racism affecting how a property is appraised. Not in over 34 years.

I know we will collectively continue to be unbiased as appraisers with or without new laws.

Accordingly I will not lend credibility to any of the unsubstantiated appraisal-racism claims. Nor will I treat them as meriting serious concern or remediation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-31042">Charles Baker</a>.</p>
<p>Absolutely correct. However, I don&#8217;t think the proponents of the current trend of &#8216;equity&#8217; demands are concerned with market efficiency or investor requirements.</p>
<p>Im unwilling to concede even a tongue in cheek concession of replacing a non existent, alleged discrimination with actual discrimination.</p>
<p>Social &#8220;Justice&#8221; Warriors (SJWs) aren&#8217;t looking for justice at all. If they were they wouldn&#8217;t be relying on feel good euphemisms in lieu of facts. Nor would they believe that an entire race of people are incapable of competing on an equal footing&#8230;despite extensive proof to the contrary.</p>
<p>SJWs are looking for control. They want penalties against one race for no other reason than that race is different than their own. In itself, that defines their own racism.</p>
<p>No one achieves equality by penalizing other innocents. Certainly no one gains respect that way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m proud of my profession. I&#8217;m proud of our ethical standards too. I have never seen or heard of racism affecting how a property is appraised. Not in over 34 years.</p>
<p>I know we will collectively continue to be unbiased as appraisers with or without new laws.</p>
<p>Accordingly I will not lend credibility to any of the unsubstantiated appraisal-racism claims. Nor will I treat them as meriting serious concern or remediation.</p>
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		By: Charles Baker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 21:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A market-based economy functions best when capital is allocated efficiently. Developers, lenders, investors, buyers, sellers, etc. seek to earn the highest rate of return possible. This basic principle applies regardless of one&#039;s race. Those that fail will not last long in a competitive marketplace. Appraisers merely measure the actions of these participants using one of several definitions of market value. Should we develop some other definition of value that would equalize some of the alleged bias? What is the responsibility of the GSE’s in this regard? Will they securitize loans based on valuations conducted to some other definition of value? If the aim here is to eliminate discrimination it seems appraisers will be required to, in fact, discriminate when selecting market data. 

When appraisers value a property under rent-control, we discriminate against current market rate sales or properties that are exempt. When we value affordable housing, we discriminate against market based sales. When we value tax advantaged properties (Mills Act, for example), we discriminate against properties taxed at market value. All of these involve pre-existing conditions that distort the market imposed by a governmental authority for a societal benefit (presumably). It would naturally follow then, that we will have to invoke a quota system in selecting market data under a new push to eliminate racial discrimination in appraisals. Moreover, we will have to overlook the fact that market participants themselves . . . discriminate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A market-based economy functions best when capital is allocated efficiently. Developers, lenders, investors, buyers, sellers, etc. seek to earn the highest rate of return possible. This basic principle applies regardless of one&#8217;s race. Those that fail will not last long in a competitive marketplace. Appraisers merely measure the actions of these participants using one of several definitions of market value. Should we develop some other definition of value that would equalize some of the alleged bias? What is the responsibility of the GSE’s in this regard? Will they securitize loans based on valuations conducted to some other definition of value? If the aim here is to eliminate discrimination it seems appraisers will be required to, in fact, discriminate when selecting market data. </p>
<p>When appraisers value a property under rent-control, we discriminate against current market rate sales or properties that are exempt. When we value affordable housing, we discriminate against market based sales. When we value tax advantaged properties (Mills Act, for example), we discriminate against properties taxed at market value. All of these involve pre-existing conditions that distort the market imposed by a governmental authority for a societal benefit (presumably). It would naturally follow then, that we will have to invoke a quota system in selecting market data under a new push to eliminate racial discrimination in appraisals. Moreover, we will have to overlook the fact that market participants themselves . . . discriminate.</p>
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		By: steve		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 19:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30963&quot;&gt;Helen Grace&lt;/a&gt;.

Helen,

With all due respect, Biden has had the last 47+ years to listen and learn/make amends for (his previously supported/implemented) disastrous policies that have directly disenfranchised many. His party pushed a platform this past election on identity politics and they lost house seats for it for a variety of reasons.

There&#039;s no altruism or honest search to be educated. Surely that&#039;s not what politicians are interested in....if they were, they wouldn&#039;t be politicians. It&#039;s a simple saying but I think it applies. When you start pointing a finger at others don&#039;t forget the three pointing back at you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30963">Helen Grace</a>.</p>
<p>Helen,</p>
<p>With all due respect, Biden has had the last 47+ years to listen and learn/make amends for (his previously supported/implemented) disastrous policies that have directly disenfranchised many. His party pushed a platform this past election on identity politics and they lost house seats for it for a variety of reasons.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no altruism or honest search to be educated. Surely that&#8217;s not what politicians are interested in&#8230;.if they were, they wouldn&#8217;t be politicians. It&#8217;s a simple saying but I think it applies. When you start pointing a finger at others don&#8217;t forget the three pointing back at you.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 19:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30963&quot;&gt;Helen Grace&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t hold out very much hope that the politicians at the top have any clue regarding the differences of fact vs fiction.  This is a remarkable episode...  If Biden can be this wrong on health policy, imagine what direction lending regulation can take...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMH9YMR3lvs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30963">Helen Grace</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hold out very much hope that the politicians at the top have any clue regarding the differences of fact vs fiction.  This is a remarkable episode&#8230;  If Biden can be this wrong on health policy, imagine what direction lending regulation can take&#8230;</p>
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		By: Helen Grace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helen Grace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 17:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30961&quot;&gt;John&lt;/a&gt;.

Andre Perry and the Brookings Institute are incorrect, as is Biden. They don&#039;t get what goes into doing an appraisal, the process and how value is derived. I watched the hearing on this. It&#039;s ignorance on their psrt to make the assertion. And ignorance requires education .  Biden is open to being educated. We need to let the public know how what we do, and how,  to change public opinion.....via tv ads, via newspaper articles. We do not discriminate. Are there any appraisers that do? In rare occasions,  maybe. But rarity does not mean we all do. And allegations that we are biased in any way is so contrary to how we are taught to value that it is negligent on their part to asset that we are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30961">John</a>.</p>
<p>Andre Perry and the Brookings Institute are incorrect, as is Biden. They don&#8217;t get what goes into doing an appraisal, the process and how value is derived. I watched the hearing on this. It&#8217;s ignorance on their psrt to make the assertion. And ignorance requires education .  Biden is open to being educated. We need to let the public know how what we do, and how,  to change public opinion&#8230;..via tv ads, via newspaper articles. We do not discriminate. Are there any appraisers that do? In rare occasions,  maybe. But rarity does not mean we all do. And allegations that we are biased in any way is so contrary to how we are taught to value that it is negligent on their part to asset that we are.</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2020 14:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30956&quot;&gt;Grace&lt;/a&gt;.

Grace, Trump is not creating appraisal policy in Illinois. What a state does during a Presidents administration has little, to nothing, to do with the current President. Biden has, on this own website, attacked the appraisal industry with accusations of racism. 

Per joebiden.com/housing
&quot;Tackle racial bias that leads to homes in communities of color being assessed by appraisers below their fair value. Housing in communities primarily comprised of people of color is valued at tens of thousands of dollars below majority-white communities even when all other factors are the same, contributing to the racial wealth gap. To counteract this racial bias, Biden will establish a national standard for housing appraisals that ensures appraisers have adequate training and a full appreciation for neighborhoods and do not hold implicit biases because of a lack of community understanding. An objective national standard for appraisals will also make it harder for financial institutions to put pressure on appraisers to their benefit.&quot;

Trump is not calling us racist. Joe Biden, Andre Perry, and like-minded leftist activist are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30956">Grace</a>.</p>
<p>Grace, Trump is not creating appraisal policy in Illinois. What a state does during a Presidents administration has little, to nothing, to do with the current President. Biden has, on this own website, attacked the appraisal industry with accusations of racism. </p>
<p>Per joebiden.com/housing<br />
&#8220;Tackle racial bias that leads to homes in communities of color being assessed by appraisers below their fair value. Housing in communities primarily comprised of people of color is valued at tens of thousands of dollars below majority-white communities even when all other factors are the same, contributing to the racial wealth gap. To counteract this racial bias, Biden will establish a national standard for housing appraisals that ensures appraisers have adequate training and a full appreciation for neighborhoods and do not hold implicit biases because of a lack of community understanding. An objective national standard for appraisals will also make it harder for financial institutions to put pressure on appraisers to their benefit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Trump is not calling us racist. Joe Biden, Andre Perry, and like-minded leftist activist are.</p>
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		By: Grace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2020 06:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30954&quot;&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt;.

Dave, Biden is not the President yet. This is being done under Trump. Problem is that neither of them know what we do and what the process is. They need to be educated.....over and over again until it sinks in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30954">Dave</a>.</p>
<p>Dave, Biden is not the President yet. This is being done under Trump. Problem is that neither of them know what we do and what the process is. They need to be educated&#8230;..over and over again until it sinks in.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2020 16:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I appraise a house a house regardless of who owns or occupies it. We appraisers have an uphill battle against the crazies like Biden, etc. who want to label us racist. What advice do you have for us Peter? My area is a very rural and white.  I have appraised a handful of minority owned properties. I am extremely careful when I do. Usually I am unaware until I know on the door for the inspection.  I treat it as any other appraisal I do, but know we appraisers have targets on our backs by Biden and the other craizies. If we do our jobs, obey &quot;Fair Housing&quot; standards, we should be fine. But should we just ask the borrower what their target value is to stay safe? What&#039;s worse than being call a racist in today&#039;s political correct climate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appraise a house a house regardless of who owns or occupies it. We appraisers have an uphill battle against the crazies like Biden, etc. who want to label us racist. What advice do you have for us Peter? My area is a very rural and white.  I have appraised a handful of minority owned properties. I am extremely careful when I do. Usually I am unaware until I know on the door for the inspection.  I treat it as any other appraisal I do, but know we appraisers have targets on our backs by Biden and the other craizies. If we do our jobs, obey &#8220;Fair Housing&#8221; standards, we should be fine. But should we just ask the borrower what their target value is to stay safe? What&#8217;s worse than being call a racist in today&#8217;s political correct climate.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, American Guild of Appraisers (AGA™)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, American Guild of Appraisers (AGA™)]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I had not already stopped doing most transactional lending appraisals the &#039;disparate impact&#039; findings alone would cause me to immediately cease doing ALL FHA appraisal work.

Disparate impact doesn&#039;t require any direct evidence or proof. We can be found to be in violation based upon statistical analyses that have NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR APPRAISAL. &quot;A court can find that residents of a certain area have values 10% to 15% lower than other areas and that this somehow constitutes discrimination.&#039; No wrongdoing by an appraiser required.

I&#039;m DONE with all FHA appraising. Great job Illinois! As other states follow by jumping on this currently favorite PC issue and stupid regulatory micro-management even fewer of us are going to be willing to assume this unreasonable added risk.

I have never known an appraiser to perform with or express any racial bias in an appraisal. In creating a solution for a non-existent problem, Illinois has severely limited the number of (sensible) appraisers willing to risk their licenses and income to politically motivated courts and legislation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had not already stopped doing most transactional lending appraisals the &#8216;disparate impact&#8217; findings alone would cause me to immediately cease doing ALL FHA appraisal work.</p>
<p>Disparate impact doesn&#8217;t require any direct evidence or proof. We can be found to be in violation based upon statistical analyses that have NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR APPRAISAL. &#8220;A court can find that residents of a certain area have values 10% to 15% lower than other areas and that this somehow constitutes discrimination.&#8217; No wrongdoing by an appraiser required.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m DONE with all FHA appraising. Great job Illinois! As other states follow by jumping on this currently favorite PC issue and stupid regulatory micro-management even fewer of us are going to be willing to assume this unreasonable added risk.</p>
<p>I have never known an appraiser to perform with or express any racial bias in an appraisal. In creating a solution for a non-existent problem, Illinois has severely limited the number of (sensible) appraisers willing to risk their licenses and income to politically motivated courts and legislation.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/06/business/hotels-transformation-offices-shelters-coronavirus.html
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-nyt-homeless-hotels-liberal-neighborhood-new-york-20200818-5k5myysobngathfscstdotjs3e-story.html
https://abc7ny.com/upper-west-side-homeless-hotels-coronavirus-covid/6367038/
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/06/supreme-court-fair-housing-segregation/396860/

They just did school choice vouchers, finally.  Let&#039;s give that some time to work before we rush headlong demanding the government get more involved.  As usual, when the government gets involved, it takes a challenging situation and makes it worse.  I&#039;m confident the buyers will recognize the market for what it is, and I&#039;ll merely need to report on existing figures.  Honk if I&#039;m paying your 5 star hotel rent.]]></description>
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<p>They just did school choice vouchers, finally.  Let&#8217;s give that some time to work before we rush headlong demanding the government get more involved.  As usual, when the government gets involved, it takes a challenging situation and makes it worse.  I&#8217;m confident the buyers will recognize the market for what it is, and I&#8217;ll merely need to report on existing figures.  Honk if I&#8217;m paying your 5 star hotel rent.</p>
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		By: Xpert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2020 19:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Absolute BS. We do not need more laws, we just need enforcement of laws already in place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolute BS. We do not need more laws, we just need enforcement of laws already in place.</p>
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		By: Maureen Sweeney on Twitter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maureen Sweeney on Twitter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait until the focus turns to desktop underwriting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait until the focus turns to desktop underwriting.</p>
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		By: nick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2020 17:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30942&quot;&gt;Mag Jones&lt;/a&gt;.

We eschew anything race related because of everything already on the books; I would point your attention to - (unless justified by legitimate rationale) - although the Vashtu would seem legitimate I would argue that based on the definitions for Market Value and HBU analysis (based on Legal Permeability, Physical Probability, Financial Feasibility, Most Probable), analysis on the market should be based on &#039;many&#039; market participants not certain sects so they would probably ding you on that logic (if I&#039;m thinking like them).

That said, just virtue signal back and read the room. As referenced above, there is a heavy amount of laws on the books baring discrimination. The loudest voices tend to have the least to say and in this case are furthering a damaging and false narrative.

Appraisal doesn&#039;t happen in a vacuum, Peter, great article snippet on this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/illinois-bill-introduced-2-prohibit-discrimination-in-appraisals-bpos-n-cmas/#comment-30942">Mag Jones</a>.</p>
<p>We eschew anything race related because of everything already on the books; I would point your attention to &#8211; (unless justified by legitimate rationale) &#8211; although the Vashtu would seem legitimate I would argue that based on the definitions for Market Value and HBU analysis (based on Legal Permeability, Physical Probability, Financial Feasibility, Most Probable), analysis on the market should be based on &#8216;many&#8217; market participants not certain sects so they would probably ding you on that logic (if I&#8217;m thinking like them).</p>
<p>That said, just virtue signal back and read the room. As referenced above, there is a heavy amount of laws on the books baring discrimination. The loudest voices tend to have the least to say and in this case are furthering a damaging and false narrative.</p>
<p>Appraisal doesn&#8217;t happen in a vacuum, Peter, great article snippet on this.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mag Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2020 15:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So....what if you have a home that was constructed with Vashtu architecture that has greater market appeal to persons of that particular sect/religion- something that can be proven with factual market data? Do Illinois appraisers then have to ignore reality?  There&#039;s a difference between CONSIDERING a factor that is a factual basis for a valuation concern (and has a reasonable relation to the valuation) versus making an UNSUPPORTED racial/religious assumption. This will be yet another way borrowers can &quot;weaponize&quot; their disagreement with a valid appraisal conclusion - just cry &quot;race&quot; and suddenly they have a valid civil court action even if they weren&#039;t the intended user of the appraisal. The sad part is, as pointed out in the article, all this was already completely illegal under a variety of laws. Making new laws based on popular news trends without basis in reality is bad public policy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;.what if you have a home that was constructed with Vashtu architecture that has greater market appeal to persons of that particular sect/religion- something that can be proven with factual market data? Do Illinois appraisers then have to ignore reality?  There&#8217;s a difference between CONSIDERING a factor that is a factual basis for a valuation concern (and has a reasonable relation to the valuation) versus making an UNSUPPORTED racial/religious assumption. This will be yet another way borrowers can &#8220;weaponize&#8221; their disagreement with a valid appraisal conclusion &#8211; just cry &#8220;race&#8221; and suddenly they have a valid civil court action even if they weren&#8217;t the intended user of the appraisal. The sad part is, as pointed out in the article, all this was already completely illegal under a variety of laws. Making new laws based on popular news trends without basis in reality is bad public policy.</p>
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