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		By: Tom D		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/commercial-appraisal-threshold-increase/#comment-16138</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2017 12:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/commercial-appraisal-threshold-increase/#comment-16122&quot;&gt;Mike Ford, AGA, CA AG, GAA, RAA, Realtor®&lt;/a&gt;.

i remember those days mike.  probable less that 40,000 appraisers at that time before certification.

i will be more than happy to bring out the ax to continue culling this appraiser herd. in those golden days you had to wait for an appraiser to die to get that opportunity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/commercial-appraisal-threshold-increase/#comment-16122">Mike Ford, AGA, CA AG, GAA, RAA, Realtor®</a>.</p>
<p>i remember those days mike.  probable less that 40,000 appraisers at that time before certification.</p>
<p>i will be more than happy to bring out the ax to continue culling this appraiser herd. in those golden days you had to wait for an appraiser to die to get that opportunity.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, CA AG, GAA, RAA, Realtor®		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, CA AG, GAA, RAA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2017 15:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are agendas within agendas at all levels of national appraiser leadership non profit organizations, trade groups; lending institutions, appraiser guilds and coalitions.

I read a few days ago that we are now down to around 73,000 appraisers nationally. Appraisers keep leaving but I fail to see corresponding widespread increases in fees yet. Maybe we need to cull ourselves down to 50,000?

As for any impending &#039;shortage&#039;, I&#039;m supposed to care all of a sudden? All any shortage will do as far as I&#039;m concerned is to undo some of the mess regulators have themselves caused and then refused to clean up.

Personally I WANT a shortage. The bigger, the better. I remember 1986 when we routinely advised lender clients it would be three weeks before we could even schedule appointments; and another one to three weeks after that before they could expect their reports. Prevailing rates back then were $250 to $275 but many agents and lenders would offer inducements of up to double that for getting theirs done on week end &quot;days off&quot;. I was too naïve to capitalize on the offers back then. Thought it was immoral. Now? Working for less than $500 a day (x 2 to 4 days a week) is immoral.

The powers that be have decided that four year degreed individuals will make the best new crop of appraisers. OK. So be it. Of course those same powers fail to recognize that these uber intelligent are also smart enough to study the history of appraisal fees and business killing micro management which will continue to discourage many from entering the profession.

Mr. Brennan and Mr. Harding both did well for us when they held leadership positions in our (CA) OREA and I think their hearts are in the right place while respectfully disagreeing with their specific current shortage solutions. Maybe if they focused a bit more on how many states are driving appraisers out of the business by creatively reinterpreting USPAP (Oregon, California and how many others?) and then coercing settlement stipulations from those that cannot afford $20,000 to $30,000 to defend themselves?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are agendas within agendas at all levels of national appraiser leadership non profit organizations, trade groups; lending institutions, appraiser guilds and coalitions.</p>
<p>I read a few days ago that we are now down to around 73,000 appraisers nationally. Appraisers keep leaving but I fail to see corresponding widespread increases in fees yet. Maybe we need to cull ourselves down to 50,000?</p>
<p>As for any impending &#8216;shortage&#8217;, I&#8217;m supposed to care all of a sudden? All any shortage will do as far as I&#8217;m concerned is to undo some of the mess regulators have themselves caused and then refused to clean up.</p>
<p>Personally I WANT a shortage. The bigger, the better. I remember 1986 when we routinely advised lender clients it would be three weeks before we could even schedule appointments; and another one to three weeks after that before they could expect their reports. Prevailing rates back then were $250 to $275 but many agents and lenders would offer inducements of up to double that for getting theirs done on week end &#8220;days off&#8221;. I was too naïve to capitalize on the offers back then. Thought it was immoral. Now? Working for less than $500 a day (x 2 to 4 days a week) is immoral.</p>
<p>The powers that be have decided that four year degreed individuals will make the best new crop of appraisers. OK. So be it. Of course those same powers fail to recognize that these uber intelligent are also smart enough to study the history of appraisal fees and business killing micro management which will continue to discourage many from entering the profession.</p>
<p>Mr. Brennan and Mr. Harding both did well for us when they held leadership positions in our (CA) OREA and I think their hearts are in the right place while respectfully disagreeing with their specific current shortage solutions. Maybe if they focused a bit more on how many states are driving appraisers out of the business by creatively reinterpreting USPAP (Oregon, California and how many others?) and then coercing settlement stipulations from those that cannot afford $20,000 to $30,000 to defend themselves?</p>
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		By: Retired Appraiser		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/commercial-appraisal-threshold-increase/#comment-16120</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Retired Appraiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One has to HOWL WITH LAUGHTER at the latest John Brenan article on AppraisalBuzz regarding precisely why appraisers won&#039;t train trainees.  It appears that the Appraisal Foundation found it necessary to travel the planet in search of precisely why appraisers refuse to train others.  In the end they appear to have settled on the fact that their new education requirement did the damage (which it did in large part).  What they can&#039;t seem to come to terms with is the answer that appraisers have been screaming in their ear since 2009.  Just for the fun of it folks, let&#039;s scream the answer into John Brenan&#039;s ear one more time.  &quot;IT&#039;S THE FEES STUPID&quot;.   Fees were cut by half in 2009 while work load was doubled.  This appears to be breaking news to the Appraisal Foundation and the Appraisal Institute however.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One has to HOWL WITH LAUGHTER at the latest John Brenan article on AppraisalBuzz regarding precisely why appraisers won&#8217;t train trainees.  It appears that the Appraisal Foundation found it necessary to travel the planet in search of precisely why appraisers refuse to train others.  In the end they appear to have settled on the fact that their new education requirement did the damage (which it did in large part).  What they can&#8217;t seem to come to terms with is the answer that appraisers have been screaming in their ear since 2009.  Just for the fun of it folks, let&#8217;s scream the answer into John Brenan&#8217;s ear one more time.  &#8220;IT&#8217;S THE FEES STUPID&#8221;.   Fees were cut by half in 2009 while work load was doubled.  This appears to be breaking news to the Appraisal Foundation and the Appraisal Institute however.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks like the plethora of international investors swiping US properties out from under the feet of citizens both now and in the future, have requested higher lending limits with fewer controls in place.  Go figure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the plethora of international investors swiping US properties out from under the feet of citizens both now and in the future, have requested higher lending limits with fewer controls in place.  Go figure.</p>
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