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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30511</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 20:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30472&quot;&gt;Seneca&lt;/a&gt;.

Obviously yes, and the points were clear.

Disregard for established guidelines, the rule of law, and basic ethical principles is a hallmark of many amc&#039;s.

Thank you for playing. Please come again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30472">Seneca</a>.</p>
<p>Obviously yes, and the points were clear.</p>
<p>Disregard for established guidelines, the rule of law, and basic ethical principles is a hallmark of many amc&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Thank you for playing. Please come again.</p>
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		By: Seneca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seneca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2020 07:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30414&quot;&gt;Baggins&lt;/a&gt;.

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Is there a point?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30414">Baggins</a>.</p>
<p>ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Is there a point?</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 23:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30411&quot;&gt;John M Pratt&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s probably your browser or cross platform something or another.  Here is the link from above.

https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=CFPB-2020-0020-0001

That&#039;s a lot to go through...  How are they going to season anything when they lend on a fractional reserve basis, keeping the volume going because of the immediate saleable opportunity the gse&#039;s provide? Seeing them have to hold the notes for 3 years would appear to be a game changer on multiple fronts. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30411">John M Pratt</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably your browser or cross platform something or another.  Here is the link from above.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=CFPB-2020-0020-0001" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=CFPB-2020-0020-0001</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot to go through&#8230;  How are they going to season anything when they lend on a fractional reserve basis, keeping the volume going because of the immediate saleable opportunity the gse&#8217;s provide? Seeing them have to hold the notes for 3 years would appear to be a game changer on multiple fronts. </p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 22:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30408&quot;&gt;Seneca&lt;/a&gt;.

The burden of proof is on amc&#039;s to prove they are worth anything or do help the process.  10 years later they have still been unable to justify their own independent billing, and still have not found broad majority acceptance among the licensed appraiser community.  The amc&#039;s have a financial incentive to reduce the appraisers fee for variable amc profit, while simultaneously pushing the consumer price higher and/or never returning cost savings from reduced cost of appraisal services to consumers.  That&#039;s why 3 out of 4 appraisers nationally refuse to provide service for amc&#039;s.  

The management rule, one must not provide a thing of value.  FDIC rules on appraiser selection confirms this principal, one must not provide a thing of value to be the preferred vendor assigned an appraisal order.  Appraisers whom discount for amc&#039;s which do not utilize cost plus are clearly providing a thing of value to amc&#039;s, and they are rewarded with the lions share of work assignments.  The amc model with co mingled billing promotes excessive outsourcing, fewer professional trainees, entices the use of runners, promoting automation on every turn.  For any amc argument, first clearly first distinguish and prove if the amc bills for their services separately or has co mingled billing with the appraiser.  Without someone else to dump risk onto, such practices would never have been broadspread in the first place.  If a mortgage banker engaged in such billing practices where they charged consumers much more than the actual service was billed for by the provider, it would be a clear violation of junk fee rules and could land them in prison.  Ethics in appraisal billing, too inconvenient for some to consider.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30408">Seneca</a>.</p>
<p>The burden of proof is on amc&#8217;s to prove they are worth anything or do help the process.  10 years later they have still been unable to justify their own independent billing, and still have not found broad majority acceptance among the licensed appraiser community.  The amc&#8217;s have a financial incentive to reduce the appraisers fee for variable amc profit, while simultaneously pushing the consumer price higher and/or never returning cost savings from reduced cost of appraisal services to consumers.  That&#8217;s why 3 out of 4 appraisers nationally refuse to provide service for amc&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>The management rule, one must not provide a thing of value.  FDIC rules on appraiser selection confirms this principal, one must not provide a thing of value to be the preferred vendor assigned an appraisal order.  Appraisers whom discount for amc&#8217;s which do not utilize cost plus are clearly providing a thing of value to amc&#8217;s, and they are rewarded with the lions share of work assignments.  The amc model with co mingled billing promotes excessive outsourcing, fewer professional trainees, entices the use of runners, promoting automation on every turn.  For any amc argument, first clearly first distinguish and prove if the amc bills for their services separately or has co mingled billing with the appraiser.  Without someone else to dump risk onto, such practices would never have been broadspread in the first place.  If a mortgage banker engaged in such billing practices where they charged consumers much more than the actual service was billed for by the provider, it would be a clear violation of junk fee rules and could land them in prison.  Ethics in appraisal billing, too inconvenient for some to consider.</p>
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		By: E J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 22:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30412&quot;&gt;don&lt;/a&gt;.

Let&#039;s go back to &quot;stated income&quot; and non verification of funds &#038; employment verification. 2008 again. If you can breathe, your approved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30412">don</a>.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go back to &#8220;stated income&#8221; and non verification of funds &amp; employment verification. 2008 again. If you can breathe, your approved.</p>
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		By: don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30407&quot;&gt;don&lt;/a&gt;.

Our society, our government, our professions and may more are tied to keeping home ownership and probably-maybe expanding it to over 65% of the populace owning their own homes. Home ownership IS a great incentive to better citizenship.

Many Presidents and their legislatures have encouraged it, as evidenced by the FHA, VA, and the Farm home loan programs.

Have the populace tired of those inspired government programs????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/cfpb-proposed-rules-may-be-detrimental-2-amcs-fast-n-cheap-mentality/#comment-30407">don</a>.</p>
<p>Our society, our government, our professions and may more are tied to keeping home ownership and probably-maybe expanding it to over 65% of the populace owning their own homes. Home ownership IS a great incentive to better citizenship.</p>
<p>Many Presidents and their legislatures have encouraged it, as evidenced by the FHA, VA, and the Farm home loan programs.</p>
<p>Have the populace tired of those inspired government programs????</p>
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		By: John M Pratt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John M Pratt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 21:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did not see a link to download the complete proposal or how to respond with my comments]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not see a link to download the complete proposal or how to respond with my comments</p>
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		By: E J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 20:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good idea. Make the banks have some skin in the game. Could care less about the AMC&#039;s, I&#039;ve about run them all off anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea. Make the banks have some skin in the game. Could care less about the AMC&#8217;s, I&#8217;ve about run them all off anyway.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seneca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Talk about slowing down the housing market. Also, wishful thinking that this will hurt the AMCs. Banks don&#039;t have time to find an appraiser in every city in every state. AMC panel lists are a convenience for lenders.  Author&#039;s evidence that the AMCs only produce low quality appraisals?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about slowing down the housing market. Also, wishful thinking that this will hurt the AMCs. Banks don&#8217;t have time to find an appraiser in every city in every state. AMC panel lists are a convenience for lenders.  Author&#8217;s evidence that the AMCs only produce low quality appraisals?</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back the way it twaz. Appraiser&#039;s were most important in the 1950&#039;s thru the 80&#039;s. The Lender made the loan, and then resold it six months to a year or so later. Banks and mortgage lenders prospered during those times. Wall streets only participation was limited because of the reputation of R.E. credit. Local lenders knew good from bad borrowers, however these products were not big enough, hence government subsidized growth.

Real Estate had always been a local thing, some arena&#039;s prospered, some slowed, some re-planed and some failed.

local bankers-lenders knew, and maybe told their appraisers]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back the way it twaz. Appraiser&#8217;s were most important in the 1950&#8217;s thru the 80&#8217;s. The Lender made the loan, and then resold it six months to a year or so later. Banks and mortgage lenders prospered during those times. Wall streets only participation was limited because of the reputation of R.E. credit. Local lenders knew good from bad borrowers, however these products were not big enough, hence government subsidized growth.</p>
<p>Real Estate had always been a local thing, some arena&#8217;s prospered, some slowed, some re-planed and some failed.</p>
<p>local bankers-lenders knew, and maybe told their appraisers</p>
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