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		By: Joseph A Fassari		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-40437</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph A Fassari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2024 16:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Being from NY I never saw things as has clear as now. Our profession has been ruined.  I grew up on Long Island which was segregated based on color from the 50&#039;s or earlier. Segregation was prominent in the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s. So were the school districts. Those areas which were not 100% white struggled. It was a big difference from buying a home in Freeport versus Merrick. I bought my first house in Freeport. Thats what I could afford. I was not biased. My neighbors were great. When I was young, I learned landscaping from a man named Glady. We would walk down to the Dunkin Donuts and peak through a window and watch a man make donuts. One day that man surprised us and gave us a dozen donuts and an upset stomach. Both men were African American. When I worked in my first real estate office my Broker of record tried to cancel a transaction because of color. He was already fined by the state department, $100,000. It was one my first contracts. I argued with him and realized I did not like doing sales. The deal went through since he realized that she was not as dark as she sounded. I had to quit. I went on to other things. On Long Island we used school districts to help define market areas. Is this biased. I don&#039;t think so. Things have changed a lot there. Minorities can now afford the higher prices of homes. The values did not change in proportion to the earlier days. You still cannot value Freeport with Merrick or even Roosevelt. The homes that are closer in proximity to a subject property given the same similarities in style, condition and size were given emphasis. A man not of my color gave me an opportunity in appraisals. In the three weeks I spent with him I learned a lot. More than from the second one. When I worked in the Poconos, I had two appraisals that were questioned. One by a builder who said that Easton Pa (About 30 miles away) were getting x amount dollars. I told him to build houses down there that the lot values were higher also. The other appraisal I performed was in my backyard. The management company questioned my appraisal because there was a home exactly like the one, I was appraising about ten miles away built by the same builder. I had fifteen comparable sales under a mile, several in the same community. Might look different but looked the same inside. What would happen If i applied this now. I would not change a thing. Statically I can prove what I do without bias. Would I accept an assignment that may cause me grief. Hell no. I recently suffered a widow maker. Only 12 percent of the population survives it. I use my medical condition if they want it back in two days. Not possible where I am. the data sucks and needs to be carefully looked at because it quacks like a duck. There is no bias here. But there is bias around us in every color. There is bias in people that have more money than us. I march to my own drumbeat. Fannie and everyone else can take it where the sun does not shine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being from NY I never saw things as has clear as now. Our profession has been ruined.  I grew up on Long Island which was segregated based on color from the 50&#8217;s or earlier. Segregation was prominent in the 60&#8217;s and 70&#8217;s. So were the school districts. Those areas which were not 100% white struggled. It was a big difference from buying a home in Freeport versus Merrick. I bought my first house in Freeport. Thats what I could afford. I was not biased. My neighbors were great. When I was young, I learned landscaping from a man named Glady. We would walk down to the Dunkin Donuts and peak through a window and watch a man make donuts. One day that man surprised us and gave us a dozen donuts and an upset stomach. Both men were African American. When I worked in my first real estate office my Broker of record tried to cancel a transaction because of color. He was already fined by the state department, $100,000. It was one my first contracts. I argued with him and realized I did not like doing sales. The deal went through since he realized that she was not as dark as she sounded. I had to quit. I went on to other things. On Long Island we used school districts to help define market areas. Is this biased. I don&#8217;t think so. Things have changed a lot there. Minorities can now afford the higher prices of homes. The values did not change in proportion to the earlier days. You still cannot value Freeport with Merrick or even Roosevelt. The homes that are closer in proximity to a subject property given the same similarities in style, condition and size were given emphasis. A man not of my color gave me an opportunity in appraisals. In the three weeks I spent with him I learned a lot. More than from the second one. When I worked in the Poconos, I had two appraisals that were questioned. One by a builder who said that Easton Pa (About 30 miles away) were getting x amount dollars. I told him to build houses down there that the lot values were higher also. The other appraisal I performed was in my backyard. The management company questioned my appraisal because there was a home exactly like the one, I was appraising about ten miles away built by the same builder. I had fifteen comparable sales under a mile, several in the same community. Might look different but looked the same inside. What would happen If i applied this now. I would not change a thing. Statically I can prove what I do without bias. Would I accept an assignment that may cause me grief. Hell no. I recently suffered a widow maker. Only 12 percent of the population survives it. I use my medical condition if they want it back in two days. Not possible where I am. the data sucks and needs to be carefully looked at because it quacks like a duck. There is no bias here. But there is bias around us in every color. There is bias in people that have more money than us. I march to my own drumbeat. Fannie and everyone else can take it where the sun does not shine.</p>
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		By: Joseph		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-40405</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 19:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A comment was made by an appraiser who is black; in this racially charged world I applaud his thoughts, I have been an appraiser for 20 years, a home inspector for 5, an evil &quot;flipper&quot; for 10 and a real estate agent, in other words I have been around the industry for a long time.  I can&#039;t believe we as appraiser have allowed our profession to be bastardized like it has; I always thought like most that the AI would stand up for us, by NO WAY...they just want to pummel us with new uspoop every 2 years and fine us if we don&#039;t comply.  I&#039;m slowly transitioning to private work and currently specialize in complex and oddball properties (my fee is accordingly).  I subscribe to six (6) MLS systems here in NY and cover 10 counties on a regular basis, staying overnight in a hotel if necessary...I don&#039;t compete with the local form-filler appraisers for low fees or do blind appraisals (Hybrids/Desktops), if I don&#039;t see it I don&#039;t sign for it.  It&#039;s a shame though, I feel sorry for the recently licensed appraisers struggling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comment was made by an appraiser who is black; in this racially charged world I applaud his thoughts, I have been an appraiser for 20 years, a home inspector for 5, an evil &#8220;flipper&#8221; for 10 and a real estate agent, in other words I have been around the industry for a long time.  I can&#8217;t believe we as appraiser have allowed our profession to be bastardized like it has; I always thought like most that the AI would stand up for us, by NO WAY&#8230;they just want to pummel us with new uspoop every 2 years and fine us if we don&#8217;t comply.  I&#8217;m slowly transitioning to private work and currently specialize in complex and oddball properties (my fee is accordingly).  I subscribe to six (6) MLS systems here in NY and cover 10 counties on a regular basis, staying overnight in a hotel if necessary&#8230;I don&#8217;t compete with the local form-filler appraisers for low fees or do blind appraisals (Hybrids/Desktops), if I don&#8217;t see it I don&#8217;t sign for it.  It&#8217;s a shame though, I feel sorry for the recently licensed appraisers struggling.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 19:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-40255&quot;&gt;Mary T Thompson&lt;/a&gt;.

Whenever I think I can&#039;t go another day.  I just watch another episode of Billy the Exterminator and remember that things could be worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-40255">Mary T Thompson</a>.</p>
<p>Whenever I think I can&#8217;t go another day.  I just watch another episode of Billy the Exterminator and remember that things could be worse.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-40254&quot;&gt;NB&lt;/a&gt;.

How come I never get the &#039;unwanted advances&#039;?  My handy metal cigarette case doubles as a form of bulletproof protection.  But only if they aim perfectly for my heart.  I could only be so lucky in this industry, to expire quickly without hardly noticing.  

On the bright side, I&#039;ve learned what that dotty grime on walls of abandoned houses most likely is;  Roach sign.  I was like, how could that even be there, and what is it, why is it everywhere except where pictures were on the wall?  I watched a bug documentary and that&#039;s almost certainly roach sign.  Eureka!  Finally some clear answers.  Nobody else knew either and most simply wanted to not talk about it and forget they had ever been in there.  

Who wants to go to the uppity locations all the time anyways.  A good rule of thumb for appraisers; Try to limit your services to only neighborhoods you could ever hope to personally afford to live in yourself.  Nobody even blinks at tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in hidden costs as origination and agency fees are buried in thirty year amortizing loan packages.  But ask the people whom are supposedly making this major commitment to fess up an extra hundred or two out of pocket for the appraiser, all of the sudden everyone magically remembers how to negotiate and get thrifty.  The life of an appraiser.

Good times, fun follow ups.  Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-40254">NB</a>.</p>
<p>How come I never get the &#8216;unwanted advances&#8217;?  My handy metal cigarette case doubles as a form of bulletproof protection.  But only if they aim perfectly for my heart.  I could only be so lucky in this industry, to expire quickly without hardly noticing.  </p>
<p>On the bright side, I&#8217;ve learned what that dotty grime on walls of abandoned houses most likely is;  Roach sign.  I was like, how could that even be there, and what is it, why is it everywhere except where pictures were on the wall?  I watched a bug documentary and that&#8217;s almost certainly roach sign.  Eureka!  Finally some clear answers.  Nobody else knew either and most simply wanted to not talk about it and forget they had ever been in there.  </p>
<p>Who wants to go to the uppity locations all the time anyways.  A good rule of thumb for appraisers; Try to limit your services to only neighborhoods you could ever hope to personally afford to live in yourself.  Nobody even blinks at tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in hidden costs as origination and agency fees are buried in thirty year amortizing loan packages.  But ask the people whom are supposedly making this major commitment to fess up an extra hundred or two out of pocket for the appraiser, all of the sudden everyone magically remembers how to negotiate and get thrifty.  The life of an appraiser.</p>
<p>Good times, fun follow ups.  Thanks.</p>
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		By: Mary T Thompson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary T Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2024 20:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-40254&quot;&gt;NB&lt;/a&gt;.

Love the Kevlar vest comment. I used to work for Fannie Mae doing REO&#039;s in downtown Atlanta until we came across 2 guys in the street getting ready to shoot each other. We were right in the middle of the 2. Left the area, went home and told Fannie, would love to do work for you but NOT in Alanta Metro. Too dangerous. That was years ago when they were not even on the BIAS train......they changed my area to closer to where I live and it was good for many years until REO&#039;s dried up as the market improved.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-40254">NB</a>.</p>
<p>Love the Kevlar vest comment. I used to work for Fannie Mae doing REO&#8217;s in downtown Atlanta until we came across 2 guys in the street getting ready to shoot each other. We were right in the middle of the 2. Left the area, went home and told Fannie, would love to do work for you but NOT in Alanta Metro. Too dangerous. That was years ago when they were not even on the BIAS train&#8230;&#8230;they changed my area to closer to where I live and it was good for many years until REO&#8217;s dried up as the market improved.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2024 20:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did tell a lender once that the fee was $1,500 and that I needed $800 up front before I went to that address. They asked why I needed up front money. I answered that I didn&#039;t currently own a Kevlar vest.
From past experience, I thought I needed one. 

Later that week another person was shot and killed on that street. No longer available for appraisals in that county- and that was twenty years ago.

When will they realize we are tired of nonsense?

Personally, I have run across squatters, crime scenes, a working meth lab, a dead body, dead animals, wanted criminals, unwanted advances, child abuse, and victims of human trafficking. I have been stalked, my life threatened, threatened with lawsuits over value, gotten injured and incurred medical bills over the condition of some houses. Yet I am still here. 

Shall we even mention the number of times we have gotten ill because someone lied about the true reason they were home; every appraiser eventually becomes a germaphobe. Then came CoVid; they locked the government offices and banks while they sent appraisers into houses.

Most people in rural areas of the south who argue about the &quot;value&quot; problem are unaware that their &quot;target&quot; price is below the de minimis anyway.  But hey, blame the biased appraiser who stopped your loan.  Appraisers make great scapegoats.

Rant over, you good readers- appraisers that read to the very end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did tell a lender once that the fee was $1,500 and that I needed $800 up front before I went to that address. They asked why I needed up front money. I answered that I didn&#8217;t currently own a Kevlar vest.<br />
From past experience, I thought I needed one. </p>
<p>Later that week another person was shot and killed on that street. No longer available for appraisals in that county- and that was twenty years ago.</p>
<p>When will they realize we are tired of nonsense?</p>
<p>Personally, I have run across squatters, crime scenes, a working meth lab, a dead body, dead animals, wanted criminals, unwanted advances, child abuse, and victims of human trafficking. I have been stalked, my life threatened, threatened with lawsuits over value, gotten injured and incurred medical bills over the condition of some houses. Yet I am still here. </p>
<p>Shall we even mention the number of times we have gotten ill because someone lied about the true reason they were home; every appraiser eventually becomes a germaphobe. Then came CoVid; they locked the government offices and banks while they sent appraisers into houses.</p>
<p>Most people in rural areas of the south who argue about the &#8220;value&#8221; problem are unaware that their &#8220;target&#8221; price is below the de minimis anyway.  But hey, blame the biased appraiser who stopped your loan.  Appraisers make great scapegoats.</p>
<p>Rant over, you good readers- appraisers that read to the very end.</p>
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		By: Russell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2024 21:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39912&quot;&gt;Kimberly DeFilippis&lt;/a&gt;.

If you are at liberty to give information.  What happened?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39912">Kimberly DeFilippis</a>.</p>
<p>If you are at liberty to give information.  What happened?</p>
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		By: Russell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2024 21:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39889&quot;&gt;Mary Cummins&lt;/a&gt;.

There have been many times I have declined engagements before inspections and after inspections.  Many times I ignore ridiculous offers. My wife asked me &quot;why are you turning down business?&quot; I told her all business is not good business and all money is not good money.  I have the right to decline or accept any business.&quot;  If they ever balk I tell them &quot;my business, my license, my decision&quot;. I will not allow anyone to intimidate me! Life is just too short!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39889">Mary Cummins</a>.</p>
<p>There have been many times I have declined engagements before inspections and after inspections.  Many times I ignore ridiculous offers. My wife asked me &#8220;why are you turning down business?&#8221; I told her all business is not good business and all money is not good money.  I have the right to decline or accept any business.&#8221;  If they ever balk I tell them &#8220;my business, my license, my decision&#8221;. I will not allow anyone to intimidate me! Life is just too short!</p>
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		By: Lamarr Banks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lamarr Banks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2024 19:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39896&quot;&gt;Russell&lt;/a&gt;.

As a brother from another...........totally on point. A few bad apples caused Dodd/Frank. Now this? I am a part of the wonderful personhood of Appraisers!! We will rise above this!!]]></description>
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<p>As a brother from another&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..totally on point. A few bad apples caused Dodd/Frank. Now this? I am a part of the wonderful personhood of Appraisers!! We will rise above this!!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know the high crime areas in my area like the back of my hand. I have more money and I am 70 now.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2024 07:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a complex assignment $1,200. Full stop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a complex assignment $1,200. Full stop.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2024 23:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39906&quot;&gt;PJTMC&lt;/a&gt;.

True, but they come from both. It is true assessors values are typically lower than fair market values. No one tells assessors that you have assessed my property too low. If they did their taxes would be higher. We complain when they go up on the value. It does not need to be a black &#038; white issue. It is a made up issue that is costing unjust pain and anguish to Caucasians in this profession.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39906">PJTMC</a>.</p>
<p>True, but they come from both. It is true assessors values are typically lower than fair market values. No one tells assessors that you have assessed my property too low. If they did their taxes would be higher. We complain when they go up on the value. It does not need to be a black &amp; white issue. It is a made up issue that is costing unjust pain and anguish to Caucasians in this profession.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kimberly DeFilippis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2024 23:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39906&quot;&gt;PJTMC&lt;/a&gt;.

The racial bias complaint filed against me in Alabama was by the Seller (a man of color).]]></description>
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<p>The racial bias complaint filed against me in Alabama was by the Seller (a man of color).</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2024 22:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39896&quot;&gt;Russell&lt;/a&gt;.

There is talk of Ben Carson as (he who shall not be named) VP, and boy, that would be a breath of fresh air.  When Ben was in charge of HUD, things moved smoothly, everyone was happy.   I miss Ben Carson, he was awesome, fair, intelligent, ethical, and honest.  We need more people like that in government.     

https://archives.hud.gov/news/2020/pr20-001.cfm
His achievements at HUD.  Note how he decreased homelessness, helped veterans, created meaningful jobs, approached problems with incentives for achievement rather than unfair color coded benefits to only certain groups of people type of policies or penalties for others, promoted better financial accountability, worked with DOJ to stop false claims rather than promoting such false claims.  And on and on and on.  Opposite of what is happening now.  Ben we need you now, please come back.  How different things would have been...]]></description>
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<p>There is talk of Ben Carson as (he who shall not be named) VP, and boy, that would be a breath of fresh air.  When Ben was in charge of HUD, things moved smoothly, everyone was happy.   I miss Ben Carson, he was awesome, fair, intelligent, ethical, and honest.  We need more people like that in government.     </p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="https://archives.hud.gov/news/2020/pr20-001.cfm" rel="nofollow ugc">https://archives.hud.gov/news/2020/pr20-001.cfm</a><br />
His achievements at HUD.  Note how he decreased homelessness, helped veterans, created meaningful jobs, approached problems with incentives for achievement rather than unfair color coded benefits to only certain groups of people type of policies or penalties for others, promoted better financial accountability, worked with DOJ to stop false claims rather than promoting such false claims.  And on and on and on.  Opposite of what is happening now.  Ben we need you now, please come back.  How different things would have been&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2024 22:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39897&quot;&gt;Superior Appraiser&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not slow; I specialize in complex properties that no one seems to want to do, cover 10 counties and am a member in 5 MLS systems, my fee is according to complexity and I have all the work I can handle now, knock on wood, so I can honestly tell them I&#039;m booking out at least 2 weeks now...]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m not slow; I specialize in complex properties that no one seems to want to do, cover 10 counties and am a member in 5 MLS systems, my fee is according to complexity and I have all the work I can handle now, knock on wood, so I can honestly tell them I&#8217;m booking out at least 2 weeks now&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2024 22:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39892&quot;&gt;Older Beige Woman&lt;/a&gt;.

&#039;proclaimed we are prohibited from turning down an assignment where there might be a perception of bias.&#039;  The appropriate response;  &#039;Please point out where that specific guidance is located in the ethics book.&#039;  The appraiser is always the final word on forming scope of work and accepting engagement requests or not.  Sounds like the uspap instructor is confusing the difference between an employee and an independent contractor.  One does not even need to give a reason to decline an order.  No justification is necessary.  Just say no thank you.  &#039;The rhetoric of No.&#039;

Zoom, why would you even want to be recorded anyways, your image and questions recorded in some online database with infinite shelf life.  Wait till that system gets hacked, going to be epic.  If more people would read the complete terms and conditions before agreeing to use software.  &#039;Your likeness&#039; and recreations thereto, are no longer your own...  I&#039;ve got an old meme on that one.

Faux ethics educators, as if TAF even knows what ethics is anymore.  They sure know how to force a captive audience to buy another over priced ethics book and pay for their over priced classes every other year.  How to coordinate with non profits and lawyer groups whom actively pursue cases against appraisers.  That they are very good at.   Sign here.&lt;a href=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/appraisersblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/termsandconditions.jpg?fit=610%2C610&#038;ssl=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39892">Older Beige Woman</a>.</p>
<p>&#8216;proclaimed we are prohibited from turning down an assignment where there might be a perception of bias.&#8217;  The appropriate response;  &#8216;Please point out where that specific guidance is located in the ethics book.&#8217;  The appraiser is always the final word on forming scope of work and accepting engagement requests or not.  Sounds like the uspap instructor is confusing the difference between an employee and an independent contractor.  One does not even need to give a reason to decline an order.  No justification is necessary.  Just say no thank you.  &#8216;The rhetoric of No.&#8217;</p>
<p>Zoom, why would you even want to be recorded anyways, your image and questions recorded in some online database with infinite shelf life.  Wait till that system gets hacked, going to be epic.  If more people would read the complete terms and conditions before agreeing to use software.  &#8216;Your likeness&#8217; and recreations thereto, are no longer your own&#8230;  I&#8217;ve got an old meme on that one.</p>
<p>Faux ethics educators, as if TAF even knows what ethics is anymore.  They sure know how to force a captive audience to buy another over priced ethics book and pay for their over priced classes every other year.  How to coordinate with non profits and lawyer groups whom actively pursue cases against appraisers.  That they are very good at.   Sign here.<a target="_blank" href="https://i0.wp.com/appraisersblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/termsandconditions.jpg?fit=610%2C610&amp;ssl=1" rel="nofollow ugc"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2024 21:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The obvious is what no one is talking about at all. Most if not all the bias and racist complaints are coming from refinances, not sales? It would be interesting to know the statistics on that. This is not to infer there are not bad people out here doing bad things only the dynamics between the two types of appraisals and the reactions of owners.  It would also be interesting to find out what a property is being assessed by the local Assessor that, in my experience and area, are much lower than the actual value. Are the Assessors racist too or are they just ignored by the statics being used to beat up white appraisers? It&#039;s so sad this needs to be a black &#038; white issue, but it seems the political climate we live in perpetuates this discourse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The obvious is what no one is talking about at all. Most if not all the bias and racist complaints are coming from refinances, not sales? It would be interesting to know the statistics on that. This is not to infer there are not bad people out here doing bad things only the dynamics between the two types of appraisals and the reactions of owners.  It would also be interesting to find out what a property is being assessed by the local Assessor that, in my experience and area, are much lower than the actual value. Are the Assessors racist too or are they just ignored by the statics being used to beat up white appraisers? It&#8217;s so sad this needs to be a black &amp; white issue, but it seems the political climate we live in perpetuates this discourse.</p>
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		By: Russell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2024 21:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39894&quot;&gt;Baggins&lt;/a&gt;.

So, true!!!!! Very good point!]]></description>
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<p>So, true!!!!! Very good point!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2024 21:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39892&quot;&gt;Older Beige Woman&lt;/a&gt;.

They are working on biases class to be a mandated requirement apart from USPAP.  It is coming.]]></description>
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<p>They are working on biases class to be a mandated requirement apart from USPAP.  It is coming.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Thompson Thompson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2024 21:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisers-you-are-damned-if-you-do-and-damned-if-you-dont/#comment-39895&quot;&gt;Desiree Mehbod&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen!]]></description>
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<p>Amen!</p>
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