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		By: J Douglas		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/collecting-from-problematic-clients/#comment-39328</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Douglas]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately no one takes this industry serious but the hardworking appraisers. Our profession won&#039;t be respected until Dodd Frank is dead. IJS]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately no one takes this industry serious but the hardworking appraisers. Our profession won&#8217;t be respected until Dodd Frank is dead. IJS</p>
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		By: Diana N.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diana N.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2016 19:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks like this is another AMC going down the tubes owing appraisers money, which based on the ES travesty, they will never collect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like this is another AMC going down the tubes owing appraisers money, which based on the ES travesty, they will never collect.</p>
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		By: Stephen M. Wolfson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen M. Wolfson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 19:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[North Carolina has an AMC bill and a Banking law that Appraisers must be paid within 30 days of delivery of the report. AND yet,,,, the worst payers are the big banks..... Go figure....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>North Carolina has an AMC bill and a Banking law that Appraisers must be paid within 30 days of delivery of the report. AND yet,,,, the worst payers are the big banks&#8230;.. Go figure&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Carl		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/collecting-from-problematic-clients/#comment-8306</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/collecting-from-problematic-clients/#comment-8305&quot;&gt;Matt Gloege, (Cer Res.)&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds worth researching.

Thanks, Matt]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/collecting-from-problematic-clients/#comment-8305">Matt Gloege, (Cer Res.)</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds worth researching.</p>
<p>Thanks, Matt</p>
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		By: Matt Gloege, (Cer Res.)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Gloege, (Cer Res.)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/collecting-from-problematic-clients/#comment-7701&quot;&gt;Carl&lt;/a&gt;.

Carl,

What happens if the Bank doesn&#039;t pay?  At that point I would have you as the prime contractor and a rather awkward situation when trying to go through collections.  For all the side agreements, you are the one who hired me and I believe that, ultimately, the legal system would end up telling me to collect from the person who hired me in the first place.

This has nothing to do with the 90% of the time when there is no problem getting paid.  It has to do with what actions need to take place when you don&#039;t get paid and how all that plumbing works. Do the Banks sign a special separate enforceable agreement with us, the appraisers, and does your firm get involved in and facilitate that process?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/collecting-from-problematic-clients/#comment-7701">Carl</a>.</p>
<p>Carl,</p>
<p>What happens if the Bank doesn&#8217;t pay?  At that point I would have you as the prime contractor and a rather awkward situation when trying to go through collections.  For all the side agreements, you are the one who hired me and I believe that, ultimately, the legal system would end up telling me to collect from the person who hired me in the first place.</p>
<p>This has nothing to do with the 90% of the time when there is no problem getting paid.  It has to do with what actions need to take place when you don&#8217;t get paid and how all that plumbing works. Do the Banks sign a special separate enforceable agreement with us, the appraisers, and does your firm get involved in and facilitate that process?</p>
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		By: First Valuation		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[First Valuation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 06:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have completed over 300 total orders for Walter Coats 303-991-9919, BrokerPriceOpinion.com a First Vaulation Co., and have NOT been paid for orders that were delivered since before January 01, 2012 (8 months ago). Broker Price Opinion.com, a FIRST VALUATION company literally owes me thousands of dollars for my work. I dedicated my time and energy in this company and continued in good faith, with the knowledge that I was assisting those within my community to improve their standard of living. I know that it takes money to make money- and I have spend hundreds out of my own pocket to pay for fuel, and expenses regarding the vehicle that transported me to complete the work- not to mention time in my busy work schedule. I have consistently been informed that I am being placed on a payment plan, but have not received a check in months- even then-paying me for work in 2011.
I have now stopped completing ANY work for this company, in fear that they may file bankruptcy - as other companies have done in the past to excuse themselves from paying agents for their hard work. They are the next Appraisal Loft, gone....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have completed over 300 total orders for Walter Coats 303-991-9919, BrokerPriceOpinion.com a First Vaulation Co., and have NOT been paid for orders that were delivered since before January 01, 2012 (8 months ago). Broker Price Opinion.com, a FIRST VALUATION company literally owes me thousands of dollars for my work. I dedicated my time and energy in this company and continued in good faith, with the knowledge that I was assisting those within my community to improve their standard of living. I know that it takes money to make money- and I have spend hundreds out of my own pocket to pay for fuel, and expenses regarding the vehicle that transported me to complete the work- not to mention time in my busy work schedule. I have consistently been informed that I am being placed on a payment plan, but have not received a check in months- even then-paying me for work in 2011.<br />
I have now stopped completing ANY work for this company, in fear that they may file bankruptcy &#8211; as other companies have done in the past to excuse themselves from paying agents for their hard work. They are the next Appraisal Loft, gone&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Carl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I totally agree that many AMC&#039;s aren&#039;t being fair and although we can tell people all day long that we are different they are still used to being lied to so it is irrelevant. 

Because of that we changed the model. We decided that appraisers we work with would rather get paid by the bank. So that is what we do. When an appraiser works with us the bank pays them directly an pays us a management/review fee totally separated from the order. 

No more &quot;checks in the mail&quot; from your AMC this way. And no more combining of your fee with an AMC. 

Check out our other best practices at appraisalblog.mountainseedamc.com.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that many AMC&#8217;s aren&#8217;t being fair and although we can tell people all day long that we are different they are still used to being lied to so it is irrelevant. </p>
<p>Because of that we changed the model. We decided that appraisers we work with would rather get paid by the bank. So that is what we do. When an appraiser works with us the bank pays them directly an pays us a management/review fee totally separated from the order. </p>
<p>No more &#8220;checks in the mail&#8221; from your AMC this way. And no more combining of your fee with an AMC. </p>
<p>Check out our other best practices at appraisalblog.mountainseedamc.com.</p>
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		By: Matt Gloege, (Cer Res.)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Gloege, (Cer Res.)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 01:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, OK ...... we&#039;re just not taking into account human frailty.

1.  No one but no one is going to tell you they are on the verge of bankruptcy.  No matter how you cut it there is always a greater possibility of not getting paid with an AMC.  

2.  If you want to get all emotionally involved with the problem (see litany of tears above) you will eventually end up getting burned no matter what you do.  

3.  Many business base their billing (not collection) models in consideration of the frailty of their human customers.  They never have collection problems!!  Go to a buffet and you will pay on your way in.  Go through an escrow and you will pay 50/50.  Get you car repaired and you don&#039;t get the keys till your credit card payment is approved.  

Here is a fool proof business model solution in the form of a response to a lengthy invitation from an AMC to &quot;join up&quot;.

Dear AMC:

Before I take any valuable time or waste any of yours there are a few things you should be made aware of:

Due to the many additional details and requirements typically placed on appraisals by AMCs our company has a policy of adding a $XXX.00 fee over and above our base fees as an AMC surcharge.

Additionally, as so many AMCs have declared bankruptcy and left substantial amounts owing their appraisers, all of our AMC fees are collected up front.  When the fee deposit for the appraisal clears the issuing institution, the applicant will be contacted to make an on site visit for a property inspection.  You may wish to make arrangements for direct deposit as this will eliminate the typical five to eight days time for mailing and clearing paper checks.

We have been in business for in excess of thirty nine years in this area and take pride in complete comprehensive reports.  I have included a copy of my resume.

Thank You

Tough?  Absolutely, but it doesn&#039;t take stones -- it takes self respect!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, OK &#8230;&#8230; we&#8217;re just not taking into account human frailty.</p>
<p>1.  No one but no one is going to tell you they are on the verge of bankruptcy.  No matter how you cut it there is always a greater possibility of not getting paid with an AMC.  </p>
<p>2.  If you want to get all emotionally involved with the problem (see litany of tears above) you will eventually end up getting burned no matter what you do.  </p>
<p>3.  Many business base their billing (not collection) models in consideration of the frailty of their human customers.  They never have collection problems!!  Go to a buffet and you will pay on your way in.  Go through an escrow and you will pay 50/50.  Get you car repaired and you don&#8217;t get the keys till your credit card payment is approved.  </p>
<p>Here is a fool proof business model solution in the form of a response to a lengthy invitation from an AMC to &#8220;join up&#8221;.</p>
<p>Dear AMC:</p>
<p>Before I take any valuable time or waste any of yours there are a few things you should be made aware of:</p>
<p>Due to the many additional details and requirements typically placed on appraisals by AMCs our company has a policy of adding a $XXX.00 fee over and above our base fees as an AMC surcharge.</p>
<p>Additionally, as so many AMCs have declared bankruptcy and left substantial amounts owing their appraisers, all of our AMC fees are collected up front.  When the fee deposit for the appraisal clears the issuing institution, the applicant will be contacted to make an on site visit for a property inspection.  You may wish to make arrangements for direct deposit as this will eliminate the typical five to eight days time for mailing and clearing paper checks.</p>
<p>We have been in business for in excess of thirty nine years in this area and take pride in complete comprehensive reports.  I have included a copy of my resume.</p>
<p>Thank You</p>
<p>Tough?  Absolutely, but it doesn&#8217;t take stones &#8212; it takes self respect!!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I own an AMC that actually treats appraisers right and has a history of advocacy of the appraisal and banking industries. You mentioned TX AMC legislation. Texas has done some unique things regarding the registration of appraisers in the Texas database. A bit overkill but if it instills best practices then I&#039;m all for it. Check us out. Appraisalblog.mountainseedamc.com. We pride ourselves on the value we try to add to our clients through education.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own an AMC that actually treats appraisers right and has a history of advocacy of the appraisal and banking industries. You mentioned TX AMC legislation. Texas has done some unique things regarding the registration of appraisers in the Texas database. A bit overkill but if it instills best practices then I&#8217;m all for it. Check us out. Appraisalblog.mountainseedamc.com. We pride ourselves on the value we try to add to our clients through education.</p>
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