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		By: realrose		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-18164</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[realrose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-11639&quot;&gt;Bryan&lt;/a&gt;.

39 years ago I started my professional career as a young researchers for a prestigious litigation valuation firm who nurtured me and others who I was mentored by supported my apprenticeship helped me up to the point when I became competition. I got all my work from referral and built a good reputation and worked my address off. I had plenty of opportunity  until about 2007 when the AI became more interested in International Valuation and they became irrelevant due to the hvcc, then and model. Brought on by a lawsuit designed to eliminate erroneous e-appraisals and regulate the hall out of us, we were asleep at the wheel. Then we crashed and still didn&#039;t  do anything to unite. I am looking for the AI leadership  to wake up and plan on how to be effective  in our lobbying  and quit allowing appraisers to testify before congress who are selling our profession out of business. We have too much of an attitude that is a kind to a &quot;know it all&quot;. I am guilty of that too but I never say anything I can&#039;t  demonstrate. Documentation and ethics is what is needed. This is not a fraternity  so we need to have the coursework to be offered at college&#039;s rather than the fraternity. I think we have given too many years to the new amc model and some laws should be enforced against peer review when it is used to make complaints against appraisers, when the person crystals geographical competency is their complaint. That happens when peers act in their own self intetest. States have been sued by requiring  a licencee  to live in the state where they want a licence by reciprocity. Each appraiser  has to do some work to analyze  the local area or get help and we do that in every appraisal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-11639">Bryan</a>.</p>
<p>39 years ago I started my professional career as a young researchers for a prestigious litigation valuation firm who nurtured me and others who I was mentored by supported my apprenticeship helped me up to the point when I became competition. I got all my work from referral and built a good reputation and worked my address off. I had plenty of opportunity  until about 2007 when the AI became more interested in International Valuation and they became irrelevant due to the hvcc, then and model. Brought on by a lawsuit designed to eliminate erroneous e-appraisals and regulate the hall out of us, we were asleep at the wheel. Then we crashed and still didn&#8217;t  do anything to unite. I am looking for the AI leadership  to wake up and plan on how to be effective  in our lobbying  and quit allowing appraisers to testify before congress who are selling our profession out of business. We have too much of an attitude that is a kind to a &#8220;know it all&#8221;. I am guilty of that too but I never say anything I can&#8217;t  demonstrate. Documentation and ethics is what is needed. This is not a fraternity  so we need to have the coursework to be offered at college&#8217;s rather than the fraternity. I think we have given too many years to the new amc model and some laws should be enforced against peer review when it is used to make complaints against appraisers, when the person crystals geographical competency is their complaint. That happens when peers act in their own self intetest. States have been sued by requiring  a licencee  to live in the state where they want a licence by reciprocity. Each appraiser  has to do some work to analyze  the local area or get help and we do that in every appraisal.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-11659</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2015 00:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-11654&quot;&gt;Retired Appraiser&lt;/a&gt;.

Nope. Stop the robots, and all of that. A computer is pre programmed by a human. Never trust a computer to understand the human factor. If you do, you&#039;ve lost so much of your humanity, and might not even know it. Baggins, signing out from my old heavyweight desk, 15 year old printer, and real Bell phone with actual buttons and no pc chips to speak of. Fools rush in, and quality valuation professionals don&#039;t let themselves become automated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-11654">Retired Appraiser</a>.</p>
<p>Nope. Stop the robots, and all of that. A computer is pre programmed by a human. Never trust a computer to understand the human factor. If you do, you&#8217;ve lost so much of your humanity, and might not even know it. Baggins, signing out from my old heavyweight desk, 15 year old printer, and real Bell phone with actual buttons and no pc chips to speak of. Fools rush in, and quality valuation professionals don&#8217;t let themselves become automated.</p>
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		By: Retired Appraiser		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2015 18:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-11652&quot;&gt;Baggins&lt;/a&gt;.

Those valuation professionals of the future that you speak of go by names such as: R2-D2, C-3P0, HAL, Data, Gort, Johnny 5, Robby, &#038; Wall-E.

The checks &#038; balance system that you rave about will soon be entirely in their hands.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/cant-we-all-just-get-along/#comment-11652">Baggins</a>.</p>
<p>Those valuation professionals of the future that you speak of go by names such as: R2-D2, C-3P0, HAL, Data, Gort, Johnny 5, Robby, &amp; Wall-E.</p>
<p>The checks &amp; balance system that you rave about will soon be entirely in their hands.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2015 18:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whether you agree with Dustin or not, he certainly brings it with thought provoking articles that are fun to read.  Thanks for another interesting article read.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether you agree with Dustin or not, he certainly brings it with thought provoking articles that are fun to read.  Thanks for another interesting article read.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2015 17:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Herb just said an outright No.  Ha!  Good one.  The checks and balances system will never be obsolete.  Valuation professionals will always have an important role to play in the checks and balances system for responsible consumers and responsible lenders, regardless if we&#039;re required by regulation or not.   I&#039;ll get along with out of area persons, if they have not stepped over the line regarding fair and free market distribution principals.   But as you usually never know how another appraiser has acquired the order, and appraisers should know all about how geographical competency rests on the measure of work the appraiser takes to be competent, that should not be a front line issue for appraisers I think.  I could appraise the moon, with the right data set.  Nobody should have too strong of a hold on any single industry or area though.   Anyone know where to get a M&#038;S book without Corelogic being involved?    I found it difficult to want to pay a hefty fee to the same company that recently tried to patent the entire valuation process and apparently is taking over the industry one section at a time.  Pertaining to appraisal assignments, compliance is pretty straightforward in;   F, 2, i &#038; ii  /  And that&#039;s my point, in a round about manner.  http://www.consumerfinance.gov/eregulations/1026-42/2015-18239#1026-42    /////   Appraisers should not complain just because an out of area guy shows up.  I love to get out of area, and it&#039;s a great adventure and challenge.  I used to take lots of mountain work, just for the fishing experiences in the middle of nowhere, where I would most certainly otherwise not go.  I&#039;ve seen bigfoot.  Yes it&#039;s true, at least I&#039;m pretty sure.   Ha!  My field work files were absurdly large and I&#039;m not sure I actually made any profit on many of those mountain orders, but they were still worthwhile to take in, for the drives and views and adventures.  But, it&#039;s important the appraiser take that work for competency and loyal client patronage reasons, and not just for a lower fee.  To drive out other appraisers for fee alone, would be surfing anti competitive practices.  To exclude a competent appraiser who&#039;s competing on fair terms would also be anti competitive.  I think those are important points to distinguish and talk about, when having such a dialogue.   As for getting along, I&#039;m with Herb.  It&#039;s tough to get along with me, because I&#039;d rather be fishing.  Ha!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herb just said an outright No.  Ha!  Good one.  The checks and balances system will never be obsolete.  Valuation professionals will always have an important role to play in the checks and balances system for responsible consumers and responsible lenders, regardless if we&#8217;re required by regulation or not.   I&#8217;ll get along with out of area persons, if they have not stepped over the line regarding fair and free market distribution principals.   But as you usually never know how another appraiser has acquired the order, and appraisers should know all about how geographical competency rests on the measure of work the appraiser takes to be competent, that should not be a front line issue for appraisers I think.  I could appraise the moon, with the right data set.  Nobody should have too strong of a hold on any single industry or area though.   Anyone know where to get a M&amp;S book without Corelogic being involved?    I found it difficult to want to pay a hefty fee to the same company that recently tried to patent the entire valuation process and apparently is taking over the industry one section at a time.  Pertaining to appraisal assignments, compliance is pretty straightforward in;   F, 2, i &amp; ii  /  And that&#8217;s my point, in a round about manner.  <a target="_blank" href="http://www.consumerfinance.gov/eregulations/1026-42/2015-18239#1026-42" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.consumerfinance.gov/eregulations/1026-42/2015-18239#1026-42</a>    /////   Appraisers should not complain just because an out of area guy shows up.  I love to get out of area, and it&#8217;s a great adventure and challenge.  I used to take lots of mountain work, just for the fishing experiences in the middle of nowhere, where I would most certainly otherwise not go.  I&#8217;ve seen bigfoot.  Yes it&#8217;s true, at least I&#8217;m pretty sure.   Ha!  My field work files were absurdly large and I&#8217;m not sure I actually made any profit on many of those mountain orders, but they were still worthwhile to take in, for the drives and views and adventures.  But, it&#8217;s important the appraiser take that work for competency and loyal client patronage reasons, and not just for a lower fee.  To drive out other appraisers for fee alone, would be surfing anti competitive practices.  To exclude a competent appraiser who&#8217;s competing on fair terms would also be anti competitive.  I think those are important points to distinguish and talk about, when having such a dialogue.   As for getting along, I&#8217;m with Herb.  It&#8217;s tough to get along with me, because I&#8217;d rather be fishing.  Ha!</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2015 17:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Herb just said an outright No.  Ha!  Good one.  The checks and balances system will never be obsolete  Valuation professionals will always have an important role to play in the checks and balances system for responsible consumers and responsible lenders, regardless if we&#039;re required by regulation or not.   I&#039;ll get along with out of area persons, if they have not stepped over the line regarding fair and free market distribution principals.   Nobody should have too strong of a hold on any single industry.   Anyone know where to get a M&#038;S book without Corelogic being involved?    And that&#039;s my point, in a round about manner.  Totally had 350 to buy a new M&#038;S.  Saw the Corelogic name, and could not bring myself to purchase a product willingly from the same company that only recently tried to put me out of business and apply an ownership patent the entire valuation process.  If you want that patent argument web info, you&#039;ll have to seek it out, but pertaining to monopoly structure and appraisers, it&#039;s pretty straight forward.   That would be f 2 i &#038; ii     ///   http://www.consumerfinance.gov/eregulations/1026-42/2015-18239#1026-42]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herb just said an outright No.  Ha!  Good one.  The checks and balances system will never be obsolete  Valuation professionals will always have an important role to play in the checks and balances system for responsible consumers and responsible lenders, regardless if we&#8217;re required by regulation or not.   I&#8217;ll get along with out of area persons, if they have not stepped over the line regarding fair and free market distribution principals.   Nobody should have too strong of a hold on any single industry.   Anyone know where to get a M&amp;S book without Corelogic being involved?    And that&#8217;s my point, in a round about manner.  Totally had 350 to buy a new M&amp;S.  Saw the Corelogic name, and could not bring myself to purchase a product willingly from the same company that only recently tried to put me out of business and apply an ownership patent the entire valuation process.  If you want that patent argument web info, you&#8217;ll have to seek it out, but pertaining to monopoly structure and appraisers, it&#8217;s pretty straight forward.   That would be f 2 i &amp; ii     ///   <a target="_blank" href="http://www.consumerfinance.gov/eregulations/1026-42/2015-18239#1026-42" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.consumerfinance.gov/eregulations/1026-42/2015-18239#1026-42</a></p>
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		By: Herb Martin on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Herb Martin on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2015 20:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We will be obsolete soon anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will be obsolete soon anyway.</p>
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		By: Herb Martin on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Herb Martin on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2015 20:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You forgot hell no]]></description>
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		By: Retired Appraiser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Retired Appraiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2015 19:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The more important question is: &quot;Can&#039;t we all just organize&quot;?
Answers: No &#038; No
Appraisers are far too mentally challenged to do either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more important question is: &#8220;Can&#8217;t we all just organize&#8221;?<br />
Answers: No &amp; No<br />
Appraisers are far too mentally challenged to do either.</p>
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		By: Herb Martin on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Herb Martin on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[No]]></description>
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		By: Bryan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 14:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A reflection of generations of the same old thing.  23 years ago I found only one appraiser willing to help me in any way - oh yah - we were shirt tail relatives.  We have never been each others advocates - that is a huge problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reflection of generations of the same old thing.  23 years ago I found only one appraiser willing to help me in any way &#8211; oh yah &#8211; we were shirt tail relatives.  We have never been each others advocates &#8211; that is a huge problem.</p>
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