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		By: bubba jay		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/appraisal-fee-disclosure-call-to-action/#comment-12036</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bubba jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2015 18:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i just received an appraisal order form iMortgage Services for a UAD 1004 w/MC for $175.  i have no idea what they are ultimately charging the borrower as an &quot;appraisal fee&quot;, but i am guessing the total will &quot;look&quot; normal and will be made to look like nothing is going on at all.

this is totally absurd and needs to stop. THIS is why the fees need to be broken out - so everyone can SEE what the heck is really going on.

the bleeding continues . . . . .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just received an appraisal order form iMortgage Services for a UAD 1004 w/MC for $175.  i have no idea what they are ultimately charging the borrower as an &#8220;appraisal fee&#8221;, but i am guessing the total will &#8220;look&#8221; normal and will be made to look like nothing is going on at all.</p>
<p>this is totally absurd and needs to stop. THIS is why the fees need to be broken out &#8211; so everyone can SEE what the heck is really going on.</p>
<p>the bleeding continues . . . . .</p>
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		By: Wayne		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/appraisal-fee-disclosure-call-to-action/#comment-12031</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;APPRAISAL FEE DISCLOSURE ???   &lt;/strong&gt;If that is really what we want I think we are writing to the wrong people. Most of us know what the Appraisal Standards Board is. For those who may not: The Appraisal Standards Board (ASB) of The Appraisal Foundation &lt;strong&gt;develops, interprets, and amends the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice (USPAP).&lt;/strong&gt; The first sentence of Preamble of USPAP states &quot;The purpose of the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice (USPAP) is to promote and maintain a high level of public trust in appraisal practice by establishing requirements for appraisers.&quot;

It would seem to me that Standard 2 of USPAP could be changed to &lt;strong&gt;REQUIRE&lt;/strong&gt; all licensed and/or certified appraisers to state the payment amount they actually received for the subject appraisal on every page of the report that indicated a property value or contained the signature of the appraiser. If this change to USPAP were made it would not matter what fee an AMC or lender wanted to hide. The appraiser would have no choice but to follow the guidelines required by USPAP and &quot;a high level of public trust in appraisal practice&quot; would be improved. (it could also require that the demanded turn time be stated on those same pages)

If the fee we actually receive is disclosed in every appraisal we prepare it will serve no purpose for the government, banks or AMCs to keep that information secrete in a Truth in Lending Statement or other paperwork.

We are writing to the wrong folks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>APPRAISAL FEE DISCLOSURE ???   </strong>If that is really what we want I think we are writing to the wrong people. Most of us know what the Appraisal Standards Board is. For those who may not: The Appraisal Standards Board (ASB) of The Appraisal Foundation <strong>develops, interprets, and amends the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice (USPAP).</strong> The first sentence of Preamble of USPAP states &#8220;The purpose of the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice (USPAP) is to promote and maintain a high level of public trust in appraisal practice by establishing requirements for appraisers.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would seem to me that Standard 2 of USPAP could be changed to <strong>REQUIRE</strong> all licensed and/or certified appraisers to state the payment amount they actually received for the subject appraisal on every page of the report that indicated a property value or contained the signature of the appraiser. If this change to USPAP were made it would not matter what fee an AMC or lender wanted to hide. The appraiser would have no choice but to follow the guidelines required by USPAP and &#8220;a high level of public trust in appraisal practice&#8221; would be improved. (it could also require that the demanded turn time be stated on those same pages)</p>
<p>If the fee we actually receive is disclosed in every appraisal we prepare it will serve no purpose for the government, banks or AMCs to keep that information secrete in a Truth in Lending Statement or other paperwork.</p>
<p>We are writing to the wrong folks!</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/appraisal-fee-disclosure-call-to-action/#comment-12027</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2015 15:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Posted letter numbers continue to climb, although the comment period is now closed.  Probably they&#039;re still processing the letters and posting them.  Viewed dozens of copy paste comments from this ApprsrBlogs article, and many other unique letters.  Current number is 830 letters and climbing, as of the morning after comment period deadline.  Interesting reads, with a strongly uniform message;  It is unfair and deceptive to lump the amc and appraisal fee together.  Many interesting letter reads that were educational and informative.  Suggested reading.  The appraiser community finally agrees on at least one thing;  Appraisers fees should not be combined with amc fees in disclosure forms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted letter numbers continue to climb, although the comment period is now closed.  Probably they&#8217;re still processing the letters and posting them.  Viewed dozens of copy paste comments from this ApprsrBlogs article, and many other unique letters.  Current number is 830 letters and climbing, as of the morning after comment period deadline.  Interesting reads, with a strongly uniform message;  It is unfair and deceptive to lump the amc and appraisal fee together.  Many interesting letter reads that were educational and informative.  Suggested reading.  The appraiser community finally agrees on at least one thing;  Appraisers fees should not be combined with amc fees in disclosure forms.</p>
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		By: Retired Appraiser		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/appraisal-fee-disclosure-call-to-action/#comment-12026</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Retired Appraiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2015 20:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/appraisal-fee-disclosure-call-to-action/#comment-12024&quot;&gt;Baggins&lt;/a&gt;.

Am I the only one laughing at the fact that this WHOPPER OF A LIE (fictitious appraisal fee) is blatantly included in a document that is protected by a TRUTH IN LENDING LAW!  How freaking insane is that people?

You would think they would at least have the decency to change the name of the law if the primary intent is to spit in the eye of the borrower.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/appraisal-fee-disclosure-call-to-action/#comment-12024">Baggins</a>.</p>
<p>Am I the only one laughing at the fact that this WHOPPER OF A LIE (fictitious appraisal fee) is blatantly included in a document that is protected by a TRUTH IN LENDING LAW!  How freaking insane is that people?</p>
<p>You would think they would at least have the decency to change the name of the law if the primary intent is to spit in the eye of the borrower.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2015 19:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent! 567 comments as of 07/07/15 - 2pm mst. 

My comment; Distinctly different services, should require distinctly separated fees. Appraisers should not be selected on a basis of whom has the lowest fee, unless such a low fee benefits the consumer in terms of cost savings. Currently with improperly co mingled amc and appraiser billing in a single line on the HUD1 form, cost savings from reduced costs of appraisal services are not returned to the borrowing consumer, but rather are used as a financial incentive to the amc as a reason for that lowest priced appraiser to be the preferred selectee. Variable amc profits based on variable appraiser billing, where cost savings are not returned to the consumer, is a violation of the spirit of disclosure laws regarding service fees being required to be of benefit to the consumer. Without this necessary separation of fees, amc&#039;s nationally have unintentionally been operating as suppressors of open market appraisal fees, to the severe detriment of the appraiser community. Also, rules like C&#038;R customary and reasonable appraisal fee rules, per RegZ have become bureaucratic and unenforceable, because amc&#039;s cannot be audited for compliance. Properly separated fees on disclosure forms could result in the ability of state and federal regulatory bodies to audit amc&#039;s for compliance with C&#038;R rules. Please read this professional letter regarding the dangers of amc&#039;s and these improper and illogical co mingled billing practices, put forth by one of the many state appraisal groups out there.

Thank you.
Baggins

http://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/amc-dangers/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! 567 comments as of 07/07/15 &#8211; 2pm mst. </p>
<p>My comment; Distinctly different services, should require distinctly separated fees. Appraisers should not be selected on a basis of whom has the lowest fee, unless such a low fee benefits the consumer in terms of cost savings. Currently with improperly co mingled amc and appraiser billing in a single line on the HUD1 form, cost savings from reduced costs of appraisal services are not returned to the borrowing consumer, but rather are used as a financial incentive to the amc as a reason for that lowest priced appraiser to be the preferred selectee. Variable amc profits based on variable appraiser billing, where cost savings are not returned to the consumer, is a violation of the spirit of disclosure laws regarding service fees being required to be of benefit to the consumer. Without this necessary separation of fees, amc&#8217;s nationally have unintentionally been operating as suppressors of open market appraisal fees, to the severe detriment of the appraiser community. Also, rules like C&amp;R customary and reasonable appraisal fee rules, per RegZ have become bureaucratic and unenforceable, because amc&#8217;s cannot be audited for compliance. Properly separated fees on disclosure forms could result in the ability of state and federal regulatory bodies to audit amc&#8217;s for compliance with C&amp;R rules. Please read this professional letter regarding the dangers of amc&#8217;s and these improper and illogical co mingled billing practices, put forth by one of the many state appraisal groups out there.</p>
<p>Thank you.<br />
Baggins</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/amc-dangers/" rel="ugc">http://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/amc-dangers/</a></p>
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		By: Retired		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2015 00:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/appraisal-fee-disclosure-call-to-action/#comment-12014&quot;&gt;ValleyGal&lt;/a&gt;.

Honestly, I am surprised that 323 appraisers still care enough to waste their time signing it.  One can only imagine that appraisers are busy with their DIY Embalming Kits (Collateral Undertaker).

Thank you guys for being one of the few to stand up for the rights of this apathetic cesspool of pseudo professionals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/appraisal-fee-disclosure-call-to-action/#comment-12014">ValleyGal</a>.</p>
<p>Honestly, I am surprised that 323 appraisers still care enough to waste their time signing it.  One can only imagine that appraisers are busy with their DIY Embalming Kits (Collateral Undertaker).</p>
<p>Thank you guys for being one of the few to stand up for the rights of this apathetic cesspool of pseudo professionals.</p>
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		By: ValleyGal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2015 23:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just commented. Looks like a lot of appraisers commented today thanks to this post but not nearly enough. Thanks Appraisersblogs and Bill for the heads up. I&#039;ll share this with others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just commented. Looks like a lot of appraisers commented today thanks to this post but not nearly enough. Thanks Appraisersblogs and Bill for the heads up. I&#8217;ll share this with others.</p>
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		By: bubba jay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bubba jay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2015 15:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[its deceptive and a lie to combine the appraisal fee and the AMC together, call it &quot;Appraisal Fee&quot; or whatever, and make it look like the appraiser is getting the entire fee when they are not. the AMC&#039;s and the banks dont want the truth revealed because they dont want anyone to find out that/how the appraisers are getting screwed nowadays.

its so very sad that we ever have to vote on, or make special requests, for things that should easily be considered pure common sense. its even sadder that it took this long to get here.

the bleeding continues . . . . .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its deceptive and a lie to combine the appraisal fee and the AMC together, call it &#8220;Appraisal Fee&#8221; or whatever, and make it look like the appraiser is getting the entire fee when they are not. the AMC&#8217;s and the banks dont want the truth revealed because they dont want anyone to find out that/how the appraisers are getting screwed nowadays.</p>
<p>its so very sad that we ever have to vote on, or make special requests, for things that should easily be considered pure common sense. its even sadder that it took this long to get here.</p>
<p>the bleeding continues . . . . .</p>
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