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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2021 21:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal-waivers-explosion-appraisal-waivers-shifted-fron-an-exception-2-the-rule/#comment-31777&quot;&gt;JULIO E SUNE, JR&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh you just took an old comps search form and changed it a little.  Clever.  I worked with a hard money lender a while back and they actually sent me something similar to that.  Flash from the past.  Somewhere in a box in the basement is a big stack of comp searches from like 2005 or something.  People would probably be shocked to see the way the pressure was so freely applied in the past.  It was somewhat easier to manage than it is today though, because it was not concealed and buried pressure, but rather bold and direct.  They&#039;d even scribble little notes and willing to boost the pay and add rush fees and other such nonsense.  Those go to the amc&#039;s these days.  Zinger!

I keep rewatching the back to the future series because 2021 is intensely stupid and entirely disappointing.  Someone lend me their time machine.  Every time these modern zealots seek to improve or fix something, quality of life goes downhill as fraud and rackateering adopts new and innovative forms.  Bozos are in control.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal-waivers-explosion-appraisal-waivers-shifted-fron-an-exception-2-the-rule/#comment-31777">JULIO E SUNE, JR</a>.</p>
<p>Oh you just took an old comps search form and changed it a little.  Clever.  I worked with a hard money lender a while back and they actually sent me something similar to that.  Flash from the past.  Somewhere in a box in the basement is a big stack of comp searches from like 2005 or something.  People would probably be shocked to see the way the pressure was so freely applied in the past.  It was somewhat easier to manage than it is today though, because it was not concealed and buried pressure, but rather bold and direct.  They&#8217;d even scribble little notes and willing to boost the pay and add rush fees and other such nonsense.  Those go to the amc&#8217;s these days.  Zinger!</p>
<p>I keep rewatching the back to the future series because 2021 is intensely stupid and entirely disappointing.  Someone lend me their time machine.  Every time these modern zealots seek to improve or fix something, quality of life goes downhill as fraud and rackateering adopts new and innovative forms.  Bozos are in control.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2021 21:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal-waivers-explosion-appraisal-waivers-shifted-fron-an-exception-2-the-rule/#comment-31792&quot;&gt;Michael F. Ford, AGA™&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t get the renew with another different company approach, it looks really good to have that coverage term original date read further and further back each year.

I like Landy because whenever their selected insurer may change, which is very rare, my effective arrears date does not change.  Up to almost $750, 500/1m, no claims.  That&#039;s just the new price, I remember when it was only a slice over $500.  

Our state has some group pooled policy for a lower price, RICE something or other.  Never went with it though, changing is such a hassle.

Lance just go with the big names, the commonly recognized companies.  Don&#039;t shop to much because it&#039;s a specialty coverage and you want the companies whom focus primarily on only appraisers.  They&#039;re the ones whom have the experience if you regrettably need them.  That Christensen lawyer guy pushed an article with some name references many years back.  You want the right type for you but if just mortgage lending, orep, landy, lia, I think those are the most common 3 but I may be mistaken.  Pick the right one, never change, leave it on autopilot.

https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal/fdic-exclusions-in-appraiser-eo-policies/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal-waivers-explosion-appraisal-waivers-shifted-fron-an-exception-2-the-rule/#comment-31792">Michael F. Ford, AGA™</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get the renew with another different company approach, it looks really good to have that coverage term original date read further and further back each year.</p>
<p>I like Landy because whenever their selected insurer may change, which is very rare, my effective arrears date does not change.  Up to almost $750, 500/1m, no claims.  That&#8217;s just the new price, I remember when it was only a slice over $500.  </p>
<p>Our state has some group pooled policy for a lower price, RICE something or other.  Never went with it though, changing is such a hassle.</p>
<p>Lance just go with the big names, the commonly recognized companies.  Don&#8217;t shop to much because it&#8217;s a specialty coverage and you want the companies whom focus primarily on only appraisers.  They&#8217;re the ones whom have the experience if you regrettably need them.  That Christensen lawyer guy pushed an article with some name references many years back.  You want the right type for you but if just mortgage lending, orep, landy, lia, I think those are the most common 3 but I may be mistaken.  Pick the right one, never change, leave it on autopilot.</p>
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		By: Michael F. Ford, AGA™		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael F. Ford, AGA™]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2021 01:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal-waivers-explosion-appraisal-waivers-shifted-fron-an-exception-2-the-rule/#comment-31791&quot;&gt;lance&lt;/a&gt;.

David Brauner, WorkingRE publisher and broker for OREP out of San Diego has always had the best rates whenever I shopped around. When LIA quoted 1250 to me after Appraiserfest; OREP wrote the policy at $750 I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal-waivers-explosion-appraisal-waivers-shifted-fron-an-exception-2-the-rule/#comment-31791">lance</a>.</p>
<p>David Brauner, WorkingRE publisher and broker for OREP out of San Diego has always had the best rates whenever I shopped around. When LIA quoted 1250 to me after Appraiserfest; OREP wrote the policy at $750 I think.</p>
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		By: lance		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2021 23:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal-waivers-explosion-appraisal-waivers-shifted-fron-an-exception-2-the-rule/#comment-31776&quot;&gt;Bill Johnson&lt;/a&gt;.

off topic,  about to renew my E &#038; O policy    any recommendations  for a quality provider ?        -NJ certified appraiser]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal-waivers-explosion-appraisal-waivers-shifted-fron-an-exception-2-the-rule/#comment-31776">Bill Johnson</a>.</p>
<p>off topic,  about to renew my E &amp; O policy    any recommendations  for a quality provider ?        -NJ certified appraiser</p>
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		By: Scott Taylor on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Taylor on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2021 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal-waivers-explosion-appraisal-waivers-shifted-fron-an-exception-2-the-rule/#comment-31772&quot;&gt;Michael F. Ford, AGA™&lt;/a&gt;.

best comment I have read on this site in a long time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal-waivers-explosion-appraisal-waivers-shifted-fron-an-exception-2-the-rule/#comment-31772">Michael F. Ford, AGA™</a>.</p>
<p>best comment I have read on this site in a long time.</p>
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		By: JULIO E SUNE, JR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JULIO E SUNE, JR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2021 21:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BREAKING NEWS

The SEER Shakiro De Dama has seen the future, the year is 2025


FANNYWAY 2025 UCRAP

UNIFORM CALCULATED RESIDENTIAL APPRAISAL PAYLOAD

PROPERTY ADDRESS_________________________________________
LEGAL DESCRIPTION________________________________________
CITY______________________STATE____________________________ 
COUNTY__________________ZIP CODE_________________________
ASSESSOR’S PARCEL NUMBER_______________________________
BORROWER_________________________________________________
SALES PRICE____________________DATE OF SALE______________
REFINANCE (IF APPLICABLE)________________________________ 
EQUITY LOAN (Loan to value ratio) 100%__125%__150%__200%__
OTHER CONVENIENT Loan to Value Ratio%____________________
LENDER/CLIENT_____________________________________________
ADDRESS OF LENDER________________________________________
LOAN OR FILE NUMBER:_____________________________________

Note: The primary purpose of the UCRAP is to calculate Achievable Value.

DEFINITION OF ACHIEVABLE VALUE
THE HIGHEST NEEDED VALUE THAT WILL RESULT IN THE MOST CONVENIENT LOAN FOR THE LENDER AND THE BORROWER.

CALCULATED ACHIEVABLE VALUE OF SUBJECT PROPERTY
________________________________________________________
AS OF: (Date)___________________________________________

NOTE: This achievable valuation must be calculated and prepared by an approved LOONY (Loan Originator Of Net Yield)

Name of Approved LOONY:____________________________Date Appointed:________
A LOCA (Loan Originating Certified Assistant) or a LOCO (Loan Originating Certified Overwriter) may assist the LOONY in the preparation of this valuation.
Name of the LOCO or LOCA who assisted in this UCRAP valuation:________________

NEW CONSTRUCTION PROPERTIES Loans require a CACA Addendum (COST APPROACH CALCULATED AGREEMENT) Form CACA - 007 01-2025




Free Willy Form 01-01-25                                                FannyWay Form 2005 01-01-25]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BREAKING NEWS</p>
<p>The SEER Shakiro De Dama has seen the future, the year is 2025</p>
<p>FANNYWAY 2025 UCRAP</p>
<p>UNIFORM CALCULATED RESIDENTIAL APPRAISAL PAYLOAD</p>
<p>PROPERTY ADDRESS_________________________________________<br />
LEGAL DESCRIPTION________________________________________<br />
CITY______________________STATE____________________________<br />
COUNTY__________________ZIP CODE_________________________<br />
ASSESSOR’S PARCEL NUMBER_______________________________<br />
BORROWER_________________________________________________<br />
SALES PRICE____________________DATE OF SALE______________<br />
REFINANCE (IF APPLICABLE)________________________________<br />
EQUITY LOAN (Loan to value ratio) 100%__125%__150%__200%__<br />
OTHER CONVENIENT Loan to Value Ratio%____________________<br />
LENDER/CLIENT_____________________________________________<br />
ADDRESS OF LENDER________________________________________<br />
LOAN OR FILE NUMBER:_____________________________________</p>
<p>Note: The primary purpose of the UCRAP is to calculate Achievable Value.</p>
<p>DEFINITION OF ACHIEVABLE VALUE<br />
THE HIGHEST NEEDED VALUE THAT WILL RESULT IN THE MOST CONVENIENT LOAN FOR THE LENDER AND THE BORROWER.</p>
<p>CALCULATED ACHIEVABLE VALUE OF SUBJECT PROPERTY<br />
________________________________________________________<br />
AS OF: (Date)___________________________________________</p>
<p>NOTE: This achievable valuation must be calculated and prepared by an approved LOONY (Loan Originator Of Net Yield)</p>
<p>Name of Approved LOONY:____________________________Date Appointed:________<br />
A LOCA (Loan Originating Certified Assistant) or a LOCO (Loan Originating Certified Overwriter) may assist the LOONY in the preparation of this valuation.<br />
Name of the LOCO or LOCA who assisted in this UCRAP valuation:________________</p>
<p>NEW CONSTRUCTION PROPERTIES Loans require a CACA Addendum (COST APPROACH CALCULATED AGREEMENT) Form CACA &#8211; 007 01-2025</p>
<p>Free Willy Form 01-01-25                                                FannyWay Form 2005 01-01-25</p>
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		By: Bill Johnson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Waiver, smaiver, lets just sell out like the coach.  

&quot;Are you tired of working 60+ hours a week, making less than $100k a year?

If you said “yes,” you’re not alone. Dustin Harris, also known as The Appraiser Coach, found himself stuck in a rut and decided to dedicate himself to the study of success. He now makes over $1,000,000 a year, works fewer hours each week, and has increased the quality of his appraisal reports.&quot;

If we outsource the process to the Philippines like the coach, perhaps we can all churn out 5 to 9 appraisals a day. Do we really need 80,000 appraisers nationally when after all becoming all-stars 1 can do the work of 10?

Principles before profits.

Seek the truth]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waiver, smaiver, lets just sell out like the coach.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Are you tired of working 60+ hours a week, making less than $100k a year?</p>
<p>If you said “yes,” you’re not alone. Dustin Harris, also known as The Appraiser Coach, found himself stuck in a rut and decided to dedicate himself to the study of success. He now makes over $1,000,000 a year, works fewer hours each week, and has increased the quality of his appraisal reports.&#8221;</p>
<p>If we outsource the process to the Philippines like the coach, perhaps we can all churn out 5 to 9 appraisals a day. Do we really need 80,000 appraisers nationally when after all becoming all-stars 1 can do the work of 10?</p>
<p>Principles before profits.</p>
<p>Seek the truth</p>
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		By: Michael F. Ford, AGA™		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael F. Ford, AGA™]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2021 19:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting data. Aside from the 12% purchase waivers (&#038; we don&#039;t know the estimated LTVs on those), less than 67% waivers for non-cash-out refinance transactions is not earth-shaking. These are transaction types that were originally proposed to be covered by drivebys or desktops anyway. Could there be some that never should have been made in the first place? Possibly.

As important as I think appraisals are for a variety of reasons, we also have to remember we don&#039;t own any rights to or in lenders&#039; risk policies. We as appraisers don&#039;t set federally regulated institutions valuation policies. Frankly, we are not seriously desired to be at the same table for any discussionson policies, except when it is unavoidable.

FIRREA 1989, anticipated periods when a purported &#039;appraiser shortage&#039;, or more probably a spike in loan volume would exceed the ability of licensed and certified appraisers to complete in a timely manner (whatever that is). We are by all measurements, in such a shortage now. At least in the sense where we have another 1986 style situation where turn times can run from 4 to 8 weeks.

Based on the stats compiled by Ryan (who lives for compiling statistics related to appraising &#038; helping others undertand how to develop and use them for free), I am just not seeing  cause for alarm...yet.

Do I support waivers? No. Do I support bifurcated hybrids? No. Do I support drivebys or desk tops? Not for about 35% of all property types I have seen them ordered for. 

On the other hand, is KNOWING a property&#039;s market value necessary for all lending decisions, as opposed to guesstimating it? Not really.

For my part I long ago started developing alternative purpose appraising. Its far more lucrative than transactional lending appraisals and typically with far less interference in the process.

I urge all my peers to consider doing something similar. Estate or Gift (for tax compliance), establishing a new basis for  beneficiaries, court (divorce or other legal issues), estate planning, estate settlement, proposed construction, hard money loan transactions, bail bondsmen appraisals, tax appeals. The list is really pretty long. Get involved in helping other appraisers defend themselves agaisnt false charges.

My point is, lets not panic (yet), nor waste this opportunity to develop even better income streams or to further our appraisal education. DO keep an eye on the trend however.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting data. Aside from the 12% purchase waivers (&amp; we don&#8217;t know the estimated LTVs on those), less than 67% waivers for non-cash-out refinance transactions is not earth-shaking. These are transaction types that were originally proposed to be covered by drivebys or desktops anyway. Could there be some that never should have been made in the first place? Possibly.</p>
<p>As important as I think appraisals are for a variety of reasons, we also have to remember we don&#8217;t own any rights to or in lenders&#8217; risk policies. We as appraisers don&#8217;t set federally regulated institutions valuation policies. Frankly, we are not seriously desired to be at the same table for any discussionson policies, except when it is unavoidable.</p>
<p>FIRREA 1989, anticipated periods when a purported &#8216;appraiser shortage&#8217;, or more probably a spike in loan volume would exceed the ability of licensed and certified appraisers to complete in a timely manner (whatever that is). We are by all measurements, in such a shortage now. At least in the sense where we have another 1986 style situation where turn times can run from 4 to 8 weeks.</p>
<p>Based on the stats compiled by Ryan (who lives for compiling statistics related to appraising &amp; helping others undertand how to develop and use them for free), I am just not seeing  cause for alarm&#8230;yet.</p>
<p>Do I support waivers? No. Do I support bifurcated hybrids? No. Do I support drivebys or desk tops? Not for about 35% of all property types I have seen them ordered for. </p>
<p>On the other hand, is KNOWING a property&#8217;s market value necessary for all lending decisions, as opposed to guesstimating it? Not really.</p>
<p>For my part I long ago started developing alternative purpose appraising. Its far more lucrative than transactional lending appraisals and typically with far less interference in the process.</p>
<p>I urge all my peers to consider doing something similar. Estate or Gift (for tax compliance), establishing a new basis for  beneficiaries, court (divorce or other legal issues), estate planning, estate settlement, proposed construction, hard money loan transactions, bail bondsmen appraisals, tax appeals. The list is really pretty long. Get involved in helping other appraisers defend themselves agaisnt false charges.</p>
<p>My point is, lets not panic (yet), nor waste this opportunity to develop even better income streams or to further our appraisal education. DO keep an eye on the trend however.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/appraisal-waivers-explosion-appraisal-waivers-shifted-fron-an-exception-2-the-rule/#comment-31771</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2021 17:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why would any lender want an appraisal? Just loan people what they want. What could possibly go wrong????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would any lender want an appraisal? Just loan people what they want. What could possibly go wrong????</p>
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		By: Seneca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seneca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2021 16:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Article last week said that the new leadership at the CFPB is &quot;frowning&quot; on waivers. We&#039;ll have to see if any action is taken.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Article last week said that the new leadership at the CFPB is &#8220;frowning&#8221; on waivers. We&#8217;ll have to see if any action is taken.</p>
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