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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25157</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2019 19:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25153&quot;&gt;Philip Gray on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

Sure, Philip. Would direct testimony from David Bunton, John Brenan, and others at TAF about where these constant changes originate from be sufficient? TAF Meetings (recorded) in Redondo Beach, CA; Phoenix AZ, and Las Vegas NV in the past three and a half years.

Public testimony by TAF about how small a percentage of TAF revenue comes from the sale of USPAP and courses as opposed to how much comes from their sponsors, and grants from the Feds (via ASC).

In any event the nice thing about opinions is that we can all have our own. I&#039;d never heard an independent appraiser cite flexibility of bi annual revisions as a beneficial aspect before. I&#039;d disagree that it is a benefit, but again that is only my opinion. I simply haven&#039;t seen a beneficial change in quite a few years. Agree completely re costs of ongoing change compliance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25153">Philip Gray on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>Sure, Philip. Would direct testimony from David Bunton, John Brenan, and others at TAF about where these constant changes originate from be sufficient? TAF Meetings (recorded) in Redondo Beach, CA; Phoenix AZ, and Las Vegas NV in the past three and a half years.</p>
<p>Public testimony by TAF about how small a percentage of TAF revenue comes from the sale of USPAP and courses as opposed to how much comes from their sponsors, and grants from the Feds (via ASC).</p>
<p>In any event the nice thing about opinions is that we can all have our own. I&#8217;d never heard an independent appraiser cite flexibility of bi annual revisions as a beneficial aspect before. I&#8217;d disagree that it is a benefit, but again that is only my opinion. I simply haven&#8217;t seen a beneficial change in quite a few years. Agree completely re costs of ongoing change compliance.</p>
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		By: Philip Gray on Facebook		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25153</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Gray on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2019 19:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25150&quot;&gt;Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike Ford if you have the facts then share them. Otherwise your opinion holds as much weight as mine. “Strongly suspect” is not a fact. I like the flexibility that bi-yearly updates provides. What I don’t like is paying for updates. With the amount we pay in licensing fees, USPAP update materials should be free for appraisers. And we should not have to take a 7-hr class for minor updates.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25150">Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®</a>.</p>
<p>Mike Ford if you have the facts then share them. Otherwise your opinion holds as much weight as mine. “Strongly suspect” is not a fact. I like the flexibility that bi-yearly updates provides. What I don’t like is paying for updates. With the amount we pay in licensing fees, USPAP update materials should be free for appraisers. And we should not have to take a 7-hr class for minor updates.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25150</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2019 18:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25143&quot;&gt;Philip Gray on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

Philip, that&#039;s a bit of a disingenuous comment. &lt;em&gt;IF&lt;/em&gt; &#039;appraisers&#039; are allegedly &lt;em&gt;always&lt;/em&gt; driving those changes then I suspect strongly it, would be those that consult first with their employers at AMCs; title insurance companies, American Bankers Association, Mortgage Bankers Association, Corelamode, First American, etc. at the direction of those employers.

And of course, those few real estate appraisers at TAF itself acting on their sponsor&#039;s behest.

Not even the AI or ASA have the clout to &#039;drive&#039; the kind of asinine changes coming out of TAF in recent years. Assuming they wanted to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25143">Philip Gray on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>Philip, that&#8217;s a bit of a disingenuous comment. <em>IF</em> &#8216;appraisers&#8217; are allegedly <em>always</em> driving those changes then I suspect strongly it, would be those that consult first with their employers at AMCs; title insurance companies, American Bankers Association, Mortgage Bankers Association, Corelamode, First American, etc. at the direction of those employers.</p>
<p>And of course, those few real estate appraisers at TAF itself acting on their sponsor&#8217;s behest.</p>
<p>Not even the AI or ASA have the clout to &#8216;drive&#8217; the kind of asinine changes coming out of TAF in recent years. Assuming they wanted to.</p>
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		By: merv Conlan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[merv Conlan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2019 18:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25143&quot;&gt;Philip Gray on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

...and &#039;they&#039; should be requesting en masse in the complete total eradication of USPAP; the only point I disagree w/Mr. Ford on.

When the appraisal Industry (cap not an error) combined into one AI, terrible mistake. When the appraisal Industry split from the NAR, terrible mistake.

and believe: the split from NAR cost the commercial appraisers (of which I am one) a lot of income.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25143">Philip Gray on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>&#8230;and &#8216;they&#8217; should be requesting en masse in the complete total eradication of USPAP; the only point I disagree w/Mr. Ford on.</p>
<p>When the appraisal Industry (cap not an error) combined into one AI, terrible mistake. When the appraisal Industry split from the NAR, terrible mistake.</p>
<p>and believe: the split from NAR cost the commercial appraisers (of which I am one) a lot of income.</p>
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		By: Philip Gray on Facebook		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25143</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Gray on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25142&quot;&gt;Annemieke Rood Roell Hamilton on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

Annemieke, appraisers are the ones always asking for changes to USPAP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25142">Annemieke Rood Roell Hamilton on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>Annemieke, appraisers are the ones always asking for changes to USPAP.</p>
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		By: Annemieke Rood Roell Hamilton on Facebook		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25142</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annemieke Rood Roell Hamilton on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25141&quot;&gt;Philip Gray on Facebook&lt;/a&gt;.

How?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25141">Philip Gray on Facebook</a>.</p>
<p>How?</p>
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		By: Philip Gray on Facebook		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25141</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Gray on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The changes are appraiser driven.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The changes are appraiser driven.</p>
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		By: Annemieke Rood Roell Hamilton on Facebook		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25140</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Annemieke Rood Roell Hamilton on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2019 16:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These constant changes are ludicrous]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These constant changes are ludicrous</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25135</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25131&quot;&gt;CJ&lt;/a&gt;.

USPAP was a great product in 1991. It remained so for a very few years afterward. We should have heard the alarm bells when the earliest 1991 version had &#039;placeholders&#039; for future disciplines that never were required to follow USPAP by any federal or state legislation. FIRREA never required anyone other than REAL ESTATE appraisers to be bound by USPAP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25131">CJ</a>.</p>
<p>USPAP was a great product in 1991. It remained so for a very few years afterward. We should have heard the alarm bells when the earliest 1991 version had &#8216;placeholders&#8217; for future disciplines that never were required to follow USPAP by any federal or state legislation. FIRREA never required anyone other than REAL ESTATE appraisers to be bound by USPAP.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, there is one concern that they may have heard but &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;still refuse to address&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. After decades of unnecessary tampering and finagling the language of USPAP despite many objections by appraisers, they have now created a guiding document that the public has no knowledge of; enforcement regulators have no understanding of, and many appraisers now believe to be around 50% (or more) garbage.

&lt;strong&gt;Neither USPAP nor TAF have the respect of the profession any longer&lt;/strong&gt;. Many State regulators don&#039;t think THEY have to follow it (Thank you TAF! Especially Roberta Oullette!), and the public whose interests the TAF purports to protect doesn&#039;t know the difference between an AVM; Manure Hybrids and a real appraisal. The latter being one prepared to any USPAP standard prior to 2011.

The BEST revision TAF could make would be to revert to the pre-2011 USPAP versions (pick one!), and then officially shut their doors. Turn &#039;interpretation&#039; over to ASC, institute ONLY federal licensing &#038; enforcement for FRTs and shut down the 57-Flavors of individually interpreted state enforcement that we currently have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there is one concern that they may have heard but <em><strong>still refuse to address</strong></em>. After decades of unnecessary tampering and finagling the language of USPAP despite many objections by appraisers, they have now created a guiding document that the public has no knowledge of; enforcement regulators have no understanding of, and many appraisers now believe to be around 50% (or more) garbage.</p>
<p><strong>Neither USPAP nor TAF have the respect of the profession any longer</strong>. Many State regulators don&#8217;t think THEY have to follow it (Thank you TAF! Especially Roberta Oullette!), and the public whose interests the TAF purports to protect doesn&#8217;t know the difference between an AVM; Manure Hybrids and a real appraisal. The latter being one prepared to any USPAP standard prior to 2011.</p>
<p>The BEST revision TAF could make would be to revert to the pre-2011 USPAP versions (pick one!), and then officially shut their doors. Turn &#8216;interpretation&#8217; over to ASC, institute ONLY federal licensing &amp; enforcement for FRTs and shut down the 57-Flavors of individually interpreted state enforcement that we currently have.</p>
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		By: misguided		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...5 years minimum. Agreed!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;5 years minimum. Agreed!!!</p>
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		By: CJ		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/another-draft-2-USPAP-draft/#comment-25131</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[USPAP is an incomplete project and since the authors are only paid by appraisers while working on it, it will always be incomplete.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USPAP is an incomplete project and since the authors are only paid by appraisers while working on it, it will always be incomplete.</p>
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		By: Carl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once again the ASB shows what a useless entity it is, only surviving on USPAP renewals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again the ASB shows what a useless entity it is, only surviving on USPAP renewals.</p>
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