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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCGREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2018 23:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/amcs-property-inspectors-denied-minimum-wage/#comment-22903&quot;&gt;Jeff Weeks&lt;/a&gt;.

As Yossarian would say &quot;Catch-22&quot;. IF you are an appraiser, then most states require that you adhere to USPAP. Even as a trainee. The hybrid hucksters don&#039;t want to pay enough to expect USPAP compliant property analysis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/amcs-property-inspectors-denied-minimum-wage/#comment-22903">Jeff Weeks</a>.</p>
<p>As Yossarian would say &#8220;Catch-22&#8221;. IF you are an appraiser, then most states require that you adhere to USPAP. Even as a trainee. The hybrid hucksters don&#8217;t want to pay enough to expect USPAP compliant property analysis.</p>
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		By: Claire Ryder on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claire Ryder on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whoa !!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa !!!!!!</p>
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		By: Susie Buresh Hohn on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susie Buresh Hohn on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And they firmly believe someone is going to perform a thorough property observation for 5 bucks?

Again....5 bucks....

Corporate is not going to concern themselves with the actual quality of this &quot;5 dollar observation&quot; as they are a private company looking to make a profit. They will just force an appraiser to sign an agreement so that they are not liable. Then will continue to make money off the backs of the appraisers.

Not saying all, but those paying 5 dollars.
??? .....think about the work most ethical appraisers put into a property observation...5 dollars...that is insanity...

Fast food workers are fighting for $15 dollar an hour wage....who would do all this for 5 dollars is beyond me just for starters but.....there must be someone....

And again....who protects the consumer?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they firmly believe someone is going to perform a thorough property observation for 5 bucks?</p>
<p>Again&#8230;.5 bucks&#8230;.</p>
<p>Corporate is not going to concern themselves with the actual quality of this &#8220;5 dollar observation&#8221; as they are a private company looking to make a profit. They will just force an appraiser to sign an agreement so that they are not liable. Then will continue to make money off the backs of the appraisers.</p>
<p>Not saying all, but those paying 5 dollars.<br />
??? &#8230;..think about the work most ethical appraisers put into a property observation&#8230;5 dollars&#8230;that is insanity&#8230;</p>
<p>Fast food workers are fighting for $15 dollar an hour wage&#8230;.who would do all this for 5 dollars is beyond me just for starters but&#8230;..there must be someone&#8230;.</p>
<p>And again&#8230;.who protects the consumer?</p>
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		By: marion		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 00:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a class=&quot;case-name&quot; href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/casdce/3:2018cv02185/593885&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Collins v. Altisource Solutions, Inc. et al&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
Filed: September 20, 2018 as 3:2018cv02185

&lt;strong&gt;Defendant:&lt;/strong&gt; Does 1-50, Altisource Solutions, Inc.
&lt;strong&gt;Plaintiff:&lt;/strong&gt; Joseph Collins
&lt;strong&gt;Cause Of Action:&lt;/strong&gt; Diversity-Notice of Removal
&lt;strong&gt;Court:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/browse/circuit-9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ninth Circuit&lt;/a&gt; › &lt;a href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-california&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;California&lt;/a&gt; › &lt;a href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-california/court-casdce&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;California Southern District Court&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Type:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/browse/noscat-8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Labor&lt;/a&gt; › &lt;a href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/browse/noscat-8/nos-790&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Labor: Other&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a class=&quot;case-name&quot; href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/casdce/3:2018cv02142/592724&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Collins v. ServiceLink Field Services, LLC et al&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
Filed: September 14, 2018 as 3:2018cv02142

&lt;strong&gt;Defendant:&lt;/strong&gt; ServiceLink Field Services, LLC, Does 1-50
&lt;strong&gt;Plaintiff:&lt;/strong&gt; Joseph Collins
&lt;strong&gt;Cause Of Action:&lt;/strong&gt; Diversity - Labor
&lt;strong&gt;Court:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/browse/circuit-9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ninth Circuit&lt;/a&gt; › &lt;a href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-california&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;California&lt;/a&gt; › &lt;a href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-california/court-casdce&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;California Southern District Court&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Type:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/browse/noscat-8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Labor&lt;/a&gt; › &lt;a href=&quot;https://dockets.justia.com/browse/noscat-8/nos-790&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Labor: Other&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" class="case-name" href="https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/casdce/3:2018cv02185/593885" rel="nofollow"><strong>Collins v. Altisource Solutions, Inc. et al</strong></a><br />
Filed: September 20, 2018 as 3:2018cv02185</p>
<p><strong>Defendant:</strong> Does 1-50, Altisource Solutions, Inc.<br />
<strong>Plaintiff:</strong> Joseph Collins<br />
<strong>Cause Of Action:</strong> Diversity-Notice of Removal<br />
<strong>Court:</strong> <a target="_blank" href="https://dockets.justia.com/browse/circuit-9" rel="nofollow">Ninth Circuit</a> › <a target="_blank" href="https://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-california" rel="nofollow">California</a> › <a target="_blank" href="https://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-california/court-casdce" rel="nofollow">California Southern District Court</a><br />
<strong>Type:</strong> <a target="_blank" href="https://dockets.justia.com/browse/noscat-8" rel="nofollow">Labor</a> › <a target="_blank" href="https://dockets.justia.com/browse/noscat-8/nos-790" rel="nofollow">Labor: Other</a></p>
<p><a target="_blank" class="case-name" href="https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/casdce/3:2018cv02142/592724" rel="nofollow"><strong>Collins v. ServiceLink Field Services, LLC et al</strong></a><br />
Filed: September 14, 2018 as 3:2018cv02142</p>
<p><strong>Defendant:</strong> ServiceLink Field Services, LLC, Does 1-50<br />
<strong>Plaintiff:</strong> Joseph Collins<br />
<strong>Cause Of Action:</strong> Diversity &#8211; Labor<br />
<strong>Court:</strong> <a target="_blank" href="https://dockets.justia.com/browse/circuit-9" rel="nofollow">Ninth Circuit</a> › <a target="_blank" href="https://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-california" rel="nofollow">California</a> › <a target="_blank" href="https://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-california/court-casdce" rel="nofollow">California Southern District Court</a><br />
<strong>Type:</strong> <a target="_blank" href="https://dockets.justia.com/browse/noscat-8" rel="nofollow">Labor</a> › <a target="_blank" href="https://dockets.justia.com/browse/noscat-8/nos-790" rel="nofollow">Labor: Other</a></p>
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		By: Mike Ford		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2018 23:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/amcs-property-inspectors-denied-minimum-wage/#comment-22901&quot;&gt;Diana N.&lt;/a&gt;.

Diana, there is much greater clarification of client relationships now than there was before. Both federal regulators and TAF is on record as saying the lender is the client. The FNMA forms specify it.

Federal Regulators &quot;See no daylight&quot; between the lender and their agent AMCs. The lenders regulatory obligations are not in any way diminished by using an agent (AMC).

This particular suit is essentially generally meaningless to appraisers right now. Except for pointing out that there are very low paid people involved in hybrids and other undefined services, the vendor-vendee relationships are very different I believe.

WE should be contemplating our own class action suits. FWIW I think that lies in the direction of the old FNC class action suit over theft of professional work product. A theft that there is now a mountain of evidence that it is ongoing and includes some of the original participants as well as many new players. A theft that (I believe was 5th Circuit Court of Appeals) has already been recognized. I&#039;ll recheck the court when it&#039;s closer to time to take our own actions.

Anyone interested in interim, write me directly. mike@mfford.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/amcs-property-inspectors-denied-minimum-wage/#comment-22901">Diana N.</a>.</p>
<p>Diana, there is much greater clarification of client relationships now than there was before. Both federal regulators and TAF is on record as saying the lender is the client. The FNMA forms specify it.</p>
<p>Federal Regulators &#8220;See no daylight&#8221; between the lender and their agent AMCs. The lenders regulatory obligations are not in any way diminished by using an agent (AMC).</p>
<p>This particular suit is essentially generally meaningless to appraisers right now. Except for pointing out that there are very low paid people involved in hybrids and other undefined services, the vendor-vendee relationships are very different I believe.</p>
<p>WE should be contemplating our own class action suits. FWIW I think that lies in the direction of the old FNC class action suit over theft of professional work product. A theft that there is now a mountain of evidence that it is ongoing and includes some of the original participants as well as many new players. A theft that (I believe was 5th Circuit Court of Appeals) has already been recognized. I&#8217;ll recheck the court when it&#8217;s closer to time to take our own actions.</p>
<p>Anyone interested in interim, write me directly. <a target="_blank" href="mailto:mike@mfford.com">mike@mfford.com</a></p>
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		By: Jeff Weeks		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2018 17:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Corporate America is a nasty disgusting place where the pond scum thrives and wants to feed off off everyone&#039;s profession and diminish the small business owner into a minimum wage employee]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corporate America is a nasty disgusting place where the pond scum thrives and wants to feed off off everyone&#8217;s profession and diminish the small business owner into a minimum wage employee</p>
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		By: Jeff Weeks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Weeks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2018 17:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So if AMC&#039;s can hire anyone to do a field inspection then why aren&#039;t appraisal companies allowed to hire field workers that are appraisers to do inspections. Our hands are tired or we could compete on another level with the amount of work we complete.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if AMC&#8217;s can hire anyone to do a field inspection then why aren&#8217;t appraisal companies allowed to hire field workers that are appraisers to do inspections. Our hands are tired or we could compete on another level with the amount of work we complete.</p>
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		By: Diana N.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diana N.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope it works, appraisers tried to sue ES Appraisal Services who was the AMC for Chase and J.P. Morgan Chase and we lost, the judge in Florida threw the case out. I guess he had stock in Chase.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope it works, appraisers tried to sue ES Appraisal Services who was the AMC for Chase and J.P. Morgan Chase and we lost, the judge in Florida threw the case out. I guess he had stock in Chase.</p>
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		By: Jeff Weeks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Weeks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting weren&#039;t AMC&#039;s created to be the middle person between a lender and an appraiser. Seems they are drastically misbehaving. So AMC&#039;s were created to keep everyone independent and are now trying to do away with the appraiser all together.

You cant make this stuff up]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting weren&#8217;t AMC&#8217;s created to be the middle person between a lender and an appraiser. Seems they are drastically misbehaving. So AMC&#8217;s were created to keep everyone independent and are now trying to do away with the appraiser all together.</p>
<p>You cant make this stuff up</p>
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		By: Donna Corrado on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donna Corrado on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2018 14:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AMC&#039;&#039;s should be audited for one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMC&#8221;s should be audited for one.</p>
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		By: Vincent R Simon on Facebook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vincent R Simon on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2018 14:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Service link. Lol. Shady.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Service link. Lol. Shady.</p>
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