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		By: Mike Ford, CA AG, AGA, GAA, RAA		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/HUD-AMC-mortgagee-letter/#comment-16103</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, CA AG, AGA, GAA, RAA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2017 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just received an email link to a Metro-West (AMC) CEO article purporting to foresee ho wall the &#039;new&#039; residential and commercial appraiser trainees will become qualified. Apparently through companies like their own where someone will invest the required 2-3 years THEY believe it takes to make competent commercial appraiser.

I guess the efforts of AI Members to monopolize 1-4 unit AMCs has come full circle. Can&#039;t wait til we see commercial appraisers with 20+ years experience complaining about $700 to $1,500 AMC splits. Oh wait, THATS already here!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just received an email link to a Metro-West (AMC) CEO article purporting to foresee ho wall the &#8216;new&#8217; residential and commercial appraiser trainees will become qualified. Apparently through companies like their own where someone will invest the required 2-3 years THEY believe it takes to make competent commercial appraiser.</p>
<p>I guess the efforts of AI Members to monopolize 1-4 unit AMCs has come full circle. Can&#8217;t wait til we see commercial appraisers with 20+ years experience complaining about $700 to $1,500 AMC splits. Oh wait, THATS already here!</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, CA AG, AGA, GAA, RAA		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/HUD-AMC-mortgagee-letter/#comment-16102</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, CA AG, AGA, GAA, RAA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2017 00:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/HUD-AMC-mortgagee-letter/#comment-16082&quot;&gt;VaCAP Board&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear VaCap your own quote pretty well answers all the questions you asked.

&lt;strong&gt;“The Mortgagee must ensure that all fees charged to the borrower comply with all applicable federal, state and local laws and disclosure requirements”&lt;/strong&gt;

In the AMC&#039;s world view clearly the certified appraiser meets all the HUD requirements for education, training and licensing level or he would not be on the HUD/FHA approved roster. Evaluation of qualifications done! Requirements met.

The Fed (including Dodd-Frank) put ALL of the burden for compliance on the mortgagee or lender. Enforcement of that (and all other state and federal laws and regulations) are put in the voluntary hands of the individual states.

The states in turn then &lt;em&gt;reinterpret USPAP to suit their specific enforcement or revenue goals&lt;/em&gt;. At least up to 24% of them may do so according to information derived from the Isaac Peck (WorkingRE) article of early 2016 do.

The ONE thing that both FIRREA and subsequent State Appraisal Laws all claim is their top priority &quot;To Protect the Public Interest &#038; Trust in the Appraisal Process&quot;, is the most important and glaring failure ever to arise out of the S&#038;L Bailout; TARP and or Quantitative Easing I, II and or III.

The ONLY thing taxpayers demanded was &quot;Protect us from ongoing, repeat failures from the same root causes happening every 15 to 20 years!&quot;

...and apparently THAT is what legislators and regulators heard. &lt;em&gt;The next scheduled failure has been accelerated to 10-15 years and should hit between 2019 and 2024&lt;/em&gt;. Worrying time is reduced by a full five years!

Until federal legislators are willing to write an enforceable Bill to be passed into Law that follows a specific carefully and clearly explained, unambiguous requirement with similarly clear FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT legislation American Taxpayers will continue to be the private piggy banks of special interests.

Protected by the likes of the Oregon, California, Texas, Maryland, Illinois, or Minnesota Real Estate Appraiser Boards. Y&#039;all remember Oregon and its contention that on-time report delivery was a USPAP requirement? Or the other 11 states they consulted with for that egregiously incorrect consensus?

It&#039;s doubtful the positive regulatory efforts of Virginia; North Carolina and a remotely distant third Louisiana will be enough to preserve taxpayer and consumer interests.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/HUD-AMC-mortgagee-letter/#comment-16082">VaCAP Board</a>.</p>
<p>Dear VaCap your own quote pretty well answers all the questions you asked.</p>
<p><strong>“The Mortgagee must ensure that all fees charged to the borrower comply with all applicable federal, state and local laws and disclosure requirements”</strong></p>
<p>In the AMC&#8217;s world view clearly the certified appraiser meets all the HUD requirements for education, training and licensing level or he would not be on the HUD/FHA approved roster. Evaluation of qualifications done! Requirements met.</p>
<p>The Fed (including Dodd-Frank) put ALL of the burden for compliance on the mortgagee or lender. Enforcement of that (and all other state and federal laws and regulations) are put in the voluntary hands of the individual states.</p>
<p>The states in turn then <em>reinterpret USPAP to suit their specific enforcement or revenue goals</em>. At least up to 24% of them may do so according to information derived from the Isaac Peck (WorkingRE) article of early 2016 do.</p>
<p>The ONE thing that both FIRREA and subsequent State Appraisal Laws all claim is their top priority &#8220;To Protect the Public Interest &amp; Trust in the Appraisal Process&#8221;, is the most important and glaring failure ever to arise out of the S&amp;L Bailout; TARP and or Quantitative Easing I, II and or III.</p>
<p>The ONLY thing taxpayers demanded was &#8220;Protect us from ongoing, repeat failures from the same root causes happening every 15 to 20 years!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;and apparently THAT is what legislators and regulators heard. <em>The next scheduled failure has been accelerated to 10-15 years and should hit between 2019 and 2024</em>. Worrying time is reduced by a full five years!</p>
<p>Until federal legislators are willing to write an enforceable Bill to be passed into Law that follows a specific carefully and clearly explained, unambiguous requirement with similarly clear FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT legislation American Taxpayers will continue to be the private piggy banks of special interests.</p>
<p>Protected by the likes of the Oregon, California, Texas, Maryland, Illinois, or Minnesota Real Estate Appraiser Boards. Y&#8217;all remember Oregon and its contention that on-time report delivery was a USPAP requirement? Or the other 11 states they consulted with for that egregiously incorrect consensus?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s doubtful the positive regulatory efforts of Virginia; North Carolina and a remotely distant third Louisiana will be enough to preserve taxpayer and consumer interests.</p>
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		By: chris		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/HUD-AMC-mortgagee-letter/#comment-16089</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just keep typing, save your money, pay off that house !!!

3/4 of us will be retired by the time any of these &quot;new&quot; assistants have 5 years under their belt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just keep typing, save your money, pay off that house !!!</p>
<p>3/4 of us will be retired by the time any of these &#8220;new&#8221; assistants have 5 years under their belt.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/HUD-AMC-mortgagee-letter/#comment-16086</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2017 17:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To date, no amc&#039;s have been able to justify variable fees through infinitely micro managed per fee quote fee requests.  Some amc&#039;s shop over 50 appraisers per individual order assignment by lender required contract.  The specifics are in another letter regarding earned and unearned fees.  This is the work around.  The amc simply tallies up all this time and effort and then presto, earned fee achieved.  There are specific HUD letters for MM service contractors to this regard as well, simply ignored as they utilize amc&#039;s.  Until such time as HUD updates the minimum payout to over 500 as a national standard, as they previously did in the late 80&#039;s or early 90&#039;s with the &#039;350 minimum memo&#039;, there will be no relief.  It&#039;s each on his own, individual appraisers vs powerful groups of amc&#039;s whom have made a business out of anti competitive practices.  Anyone have a copy of that old hud letter mandating a minimum payment?  It used to float around the AF all the time but I could not locate it today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To date, no amc&#8217;s have been able to justify variable fees through infinitely micro managed per fee quote fee requests.  Some amc&#8217;s shop over 50 appraisers per individual order assignment by lender required contract.  The specifics are in another letter regarding earned and unearned fees.  This is the work around.  The amc simply tallies up all this time and effort and then presto, earned fee achieved.  There are specific HUD letters for MM service contractors to this regard as well, simply ignored as they utilize amc&#8217;s.  Until such time as HUD updates the minimum payout to over 500 as a national standard, as they previously did in the late 80&#8217;s or early 90&#8217;s with the &#8216;350 minimum memo&#8217;, there will be no relief.  It&#8217;s each on his own, individual appraisers vs powerful groups of amc&#8217;s whom have made a business out of anti competitive practices.  Anyone have a copy of that old hud letter mandating a minimum payment?  It used to float around the AF all the time but I could not locate it today.</p>
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		By: VaCAP Board		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/HUD-AMC-mortgagee-letter/#comment-16082</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VaCAP Board]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2017 17:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The question that really has not been asked, nor answered is &quot;Why are the lenders not being held accountable for the actions of their agent, the AMC?&quot; HUD, Dodd- Frank, the Final Rules and most states clearly state the lender is responsible for the action of the AMC.  Where has HUD been in enforcement?

Wait and see, both shoes are about to drop! Enough time has passed that the loans that have appraisals ordered through AMCs are starting to go bad. When the investors and insurers of the loans start digging into the loan files, the appraisals will be targeted. This will open up the liability of the AMC! After all, the AMC is responsible for ordering and reviewing the appraisal report. Qualifications of the appraiser will be in question, how the appraisal was assigned, even the &quot;revision requests&quot; will all be exposed.

Just image for a moment, in a court of law, a Judge asks the owner of the AMC the qualifications of the person who reviewed the appraisal. Their response &quot;They got a good reference from Taco Bell &quot; Do we need to say more?

Thanks for supporting VaCAP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question that really has not been asked, nor answered is &#8220;Why are the lenders not being held accountable for the actions of their agent, the AMC?&#8221; HUD, Dodd- Frank, the Final Rules and most states clearly state the lender is responsible for the action of the AMC.  Where has HUD been in enforcement?</p>
<p>Wait and see, both shoes are about to drop! Enough time has passed that the loans that have appraisals ordered through AMCs are starting to go bad. When the investors and insurers of the loans start digging into the loan files, the appraisals will be targeted. This will open up the liability of the AMC! After all, the AMC is responsible for ordering and reviewing the appraisal report. Qualifications of the appraiser will be in question, how the appraisal was assigned, even the &#8220;revision requests&#8221; will all be exposed.</p>
<p>Just image for a moment, in a court of law, a Judge asks the owner of the AMC the qualifications of the person who reviewed the appraisal. Their response &#8220;They got a good reference from Taco Bell &#8221; Do we need to say more?</p>
<p>Thanks for supporting VaCAP.</p>
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		By: chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/HUD-AMC-mortgagee-letter/#comment-16080&quot;&gt;Ralph&lt;/a&gt;.

It is criminal what they have allowed !!! We get email and calls all the time from AMC&#039;s looking for a cheaper, faster appraiser, The email reads....&quot;we have a new client and want to impress them&quot;......Sound familiar ???

Sometimes almost 2 hours away !!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/HUD-AMC-mortgagee-letter/#comment-16080">Ralph</a>.</p>
<p>It is criminal what they have allowed !!! We get email and calls all the time from AMC&#8217;s looking for a cheaper, faster appraiser, The email reads&#8230;.&#8221;we have a new client and want to impress them&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;Sound familiar ???</p>
<p>Sometimes almost 2 hours away !!!</p>
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		By: Ralph		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An AMC&#039;s idea of an a fair FHA appraisal fee goes like this;

Standard fee of $250.00+50.00 FHA fee for additional inspection requirements. Total fee to appraiser=$300.00

Total Fee AMC/FHA fee charged to borrower=$750.00

Borrower wonders why they are getting screwed and thinks appraiser is greedy, while the AMC will not disclose fee paid to the appraiser and will not allow the appraiser to include an invoice.  (WOW THIS IS A GREAT SYSTEM!)

AMC pockets $450.000 for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING while laughing to the bank!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An AMC&#8217;s idea of an a fair FHA appraisal fee goes like this;</p>
<p>Standard fee of $250.00+50.00 FHA fee for additional inspection requirements. Total fee to appraiser=$300.00</p>
<p>Total Fee AMC/FHA fee charged to borrower=$750.00</p>
<p>Borrower wonders why they are getting screwed and thinks appraiser is greedy, while the AMC will not disclose fee paid to the appraiser and will not allow the appraiser to include an invoice.  (WOW THIS IS A GREAT SYSTEM!)</p>
<p>AMC pockets $450.000 for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING while laughing to the bank!</p>
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