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		By: James Tracey on Facebook		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17933</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Tracey on Facebook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2017 02:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am so glad I can walk away from this job.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad I can walk away from this job.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17932</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 23:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is similar model scrutiny applied to the something something trillions derivatives market? Let&#039;s contrast the numbers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is similar model scrutiny applied to the something something trillions derivatives market? Let&#8217;s contrast the numbers.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17931</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is no way to apply the FNMA license limitation about &#039;further human review&#039; in a manner that would be perceived by appraisers to be credible, &lt;em&gt;AND to be in compliance with USPAP in an affordable manner&lt;/em&gt;.

The latter meaning that lenders have already spoken on the issue. They expect ALL required FNMA and USPAP compliance to come out of the AMC fee. Translation: IT WILL NOT GET DONE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no way to apply the FNMA license limitation about &#8216;further human review&#8217; in a manner that would be perceived by appraisers to be credible, <em>AND to be in compliance with USPAP in an affordable manner</em>.</p>
<p>The latter meaning that lenders have already spoken on the issue. They expect ALL required FNMA and USPAP compliance to come out of the AMC fee. Translation: IT WILL NOT GET DONE.</p>
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		By: Tim		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17930</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 21:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I give it 1 year before they control what is ultimately in our reports... I dont&#039; trust them as far as I can throw them..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give it 1 year before they control what is ultimately in our reports&#8230; I dont&#8217; trust them as far as I can throw them..</p>
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		By: Tom D		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17929</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 20:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[are we talking about cu being converted to a slot machine algorithm? just pull the handle and watch the value spin.  i think that there are good non amc lenders, like good appraisers, who will not do that.  then again, walking thru the amc swamp will get leeches stuck to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are we talking about cu being converted to a slot machine algorithm? just pull the handle and watch the value spin.  i think that there are good non amc lenders, like good appraisers, who will not do that.  then again, walking thru the amc swamp will get leeches stuck to you.</p>
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		By: Koma		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17928</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Koma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 19:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From above; This can be used to assist the user in a report analysis function or perhaps to provide rationale for further communication with the appraiser about making changes to the report. REALLY! WTF!

You better bring more than some CU finding to challenge me on one of my reports let alone to make changes. I&#039;m getting tired of this and thinking the states better start to challenge these attempts to subvert us appraisers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From above; This can be used to assist the user in a report analysis function or perhaps to provide rationale for further communication with the appraiser about making changes to the report. REALLY! WTF!</p>
<p>You better bring more than some CU finding to challenge me on one of my reports let alone to make changes. I&#8217;m getting tired of this and thinking the states better start to challenge these attempts to subvert us appraisers.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17927</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 19:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17926&quot;&gt;Baggins&lt;/a&gt;.

Baggs: You are a scholar and a gentleman!

I&#039;d urge all that are interested in the topic to read it. Especially those readers that are particularly versed in statistical analysis for real estate valuation purposes. Two things to keep in mind:

1. It is the process itself that was patented. Certainly it could be upgraded (and has been up through versions 4.2) - the underlying process would still have to be fundamental otherwise a new patent would be required, wouldn&#039;t it?

2. Note the dates involved. Data up through 2014 was used for their database. FNMA lender letter of either January or February 2015 disclosed that in the past a majority (or if not majority; a significant number) of appraisers had been appraising to guidelines rather than market.

GIGO (IMHO)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17926">Baggins</a>.</p>
<p>Baggs: You are a scholar and a gentleman!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d urge all that are interested in the topic to read it. Especially those readers that are particularly versed in statistical analysis for real estate valuation purposes. Two things to keep in mind:</p>
<p>1. It is the process itself that was patented. Certainly it could be upgraded (and has been up through versions 4.2) &#8211; the underlying process would still have to be fundamental otherwise a new patent would be required, wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>2. Note the dates involved. Data up through 2014 was used for their database. FNMA lender letter of either January or February 2015 disclosed that in the past a majority (or if not majority; a significant number) of appraisers had been appraising to guidelines rather than market.</p>
<p>GIGO (IMHO)</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 18:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17925&quot;&gt;Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike, you posted that last year. Here you go.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://appraisersblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Fannie-Mae-Collateral-Underwriter-Patent-Application.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fannie Mae Collateral Underwriter Patent Application&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17925">Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®</a>.</p>
<p>Mike, you posted that last year. Here you go.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://appraisersblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Fannie-Mae-Collateral-Underwriter-Patent-Application.pdf" rel="nofollow">Fannie Mae Collateral Underwriter Patent Application</a></p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 17:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just for chuckles, I think I&#039;ll post FNMAs original CU-Process Patent Application....along with the early Jan/Feb Lender letter about how appraisers in the past appraised to guidelines, rather than to market. May need a day to dig if out of old computer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for chuckles, I think I&#8217;ll post FNMAs original CU-Process Patent Application&#8230;.along with the early Jan/Feb Lender letter about how appraisers in the past appraised to guidelines, rather than to market. May need a day to dig if out of old computer.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17922</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 16:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Appraisers nationally, get ready to post this link and copied portions in your reports, over and over again. And always copy the exact text of the client or in the case of amc&#039;s, agent of the client&#039;s, alteration or clarification request in your report as well.

&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.fanniemae.com/content/faq/collateral-underwriter-faqs.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fannie Mae Collateral Underwriter FAQs&lt;/a&gt;

Let&#039;s be honest about how this works. The employees who use the system turn over frequently. The time and resource drain on the appraiser is notable and never ending. There will every day of the week, be a new &#039;reviewer&#039; who has not read the above document.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appraisers nationally, get ready to post this link and copied portions in your reports, over and over again. And always copy the exact text of the client or in the case of amc&#8217;s, agent of the client&#8217;s, alteration or clarification request in your report as well.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.fanniemae.com/content/faq/collateral-underwriter-faqs.pdf" rel="nofollow">Fannie Mae Collateral Underwriter FAQs</a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be honest about how this works. The employees who use the system turn over frequently. The time and resource drain on the appraiser is notable and never ending. There will every day of the week, be a new &#8216;reviewer&#8217; who has not read the above document.</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 16:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17914&quot;&gt;Chaz Thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;p&gt;True. Don&#8217;t you especially like the part where the service is intended for&lt;strong&gt; MI&#8217;s&lt;/strong&gt; (purportedly &lt;strong&gt;mortgage insurers&lt;/strong&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So now when the Direct Endorsement Lender-Client is Fly By Night Mortgage, using FNMAs criteria for expedited processing, with a CU score of 2.5 and a PIW was allowed the intended and [FNMA mandated]  authorized users are (1) the lender FBNM; (2) FNMA, (3) Some unknown PMI Company; (4) their internal staff of reviewers and other undescribed property experts, (5) the aggregator that will bundle the loans, (6) some re-insurer over in France (thank you AIG!) (7) Wall Street brokerages that will sell the (securitized) MBS (8) Worldwide investors (9) the SEC, and (10) FDIC&#8230;plus any specific lender regulators as may exist.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;THIS is why I choose not to do anymore FNMA work at all! FNMA has simply become more trouble than they are worth&#8230;at all levels. I&#8217;ll do HUD/FHA work&#8217; VA work if I ever bother to try to get on an approved panel, and private work, but there is simply no incentive to do anymore open-end-liability work for FNMA.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;None.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17914">Chaz Thomas</a>.</p>
<p>True. Don&#8217;t you especially like the part where the service is intended for<strong> MI&#8217;s</strong> (purportedly <strong>mortgage insurers</strong>).</p>
<p>So now when the Direct Endorsement Lender-Client is Fly By Night Mortgage, using FNMAs criteria for expedited processing, with a CU score of 2.5 and a PIW was allowed the intended and [FNMA mandated]  authorized users are (1) the lender FBNM; (2) FNMA, (3) Some unknown PMI Company; (4) their internal staff of reviewers and other undescribed property experts, (5) the aggregator that will bundle the loans, (6) some re-insurer over in France (thank you AIG!) (7) Wall Street brokerages that will sell the (securitized) MBS (8) Worldwide investors (9) the SEC, and (10) FDIC&#8230;plus any specific lender regulators as may exist.</p>
<p>THIS is why I choose not to do anymore FNMA work at all! FNMA has simply become more trouble than they are worth&#8230;at all levels. I&#8217;ll do HUD/FHA work&#8217; VA work if I ever bother to try to get on an approved panel, and private work, but there is simply no incentive to do anymore open-end-liability work for FNMA.</p>
<p>None.</p>
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		By: Baggins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baggins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 16:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The GSE&#039;s are private companies. Crystal ball glowing, if you would just make this one change we can get the risk assessment score down..... Is it irony that the professionals sourced to feed the reliability of a data model, are excluded from providing feedback or reviewing the results of that data model? I think there may be a historical reference to this somewhere...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GSE&#8217;s are private companies. Crystal ball glowing, if you would just make this one change we can get the risk assessment score down&#8230;.. Is it irony that the professionals sourced to feed the reliability of a data model, are excluded from providing feedback or reviewing the results of that data model? I think there may be a historical reference to this somewhere&#8230;</p>
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		By: Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ford, AGA, GAA, RAA, SCREA, Realtor®]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 16:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Dave, thank you for clarifying the miscommunication of FNMA.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, the new 600 lb gorilla in the room is now &#8220;WHY do MI&#8217;s have a need to play &#8220;What if&#8221; games to my comparable sales and adjustments at all? To what end? Its a question for FNMA, not yourself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;What if&lt;/em&gt; the appraiser used a different comparable sale?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;What if the appraiser adjusted the comparable $25 a sf rather than $150?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;What if the appraiser didn&#8217;t adjust the comparable for the view?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;What if the appraiser is wrong about the comparables selection?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;What if FNMA had SR3 compliant appraisal reviews performed if there is any doubt?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;What if FNMA and the MI leave tampering with MY appraisal and its results 100% alone?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;What if lenders and mortgage insurers simply hired qualified people that were competent to make their decisions in the first place? Experienced, without need for  second guessing the process with a spurious program like CU ad it&#8217;s make believe &#8220;market data&#8221;? [see other articles in AB re CU reliability]?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;What if&lt;/em&gt; those same people had the confidence, skill and knowledge to stand up like appraisers are expected to do, and say &#8220;I underwrote that loan. Right or wrong, it was MY decision based on a properly completed appraisal; an apparently qualified borrower and a properly completed loan package with all necessary verifications; and in accordance with applicable policies.&#8221;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is no end to playing the &#8220;&lt;em&gt;What if&#8221; game.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;What if it serves no discernible purpose except to create doubt where none should exist to begin with?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, thank you for clarifying the miscommunication of FNMA.</p>
<p>However, the new 600 lb gorilla in the room is now &#8220;WHY do MI&#8217;s have a need to play &#8220;What if&#8221; games to my comparable sales and adjustments at all? To what end? Its a question for FNMA, not yourself.</p>
<p><em>What if</em> the appraiser used a different comparable sale?</p>
<p><em>What if the appraiser adjusted the comparable $25 a sf rather than $150?</em></p>
<p><em>What if the appraiser didn&#8217;t adjust the comparable for the view?</em></p>
<p><em>What if the appraiser is wrong about the comparables selection?</em></p>
<p><em>What if FNMA had SR3 compliant appraisal reviews performed if there is any doubt?</em></p>
<p><em>What if FNMA and the MI leave tampering with MY appraisal and its results 100% alone?</em></p>
<p><em>What if lenders and mortgage insurers simply hired qualified people that were competent to make their decisions in the first place? Experienced, without need for  second guessing the process with a spurious program like CU ad it&#8217;s make believe &#8220;market data&#8221;? [see other articles in AB re CU reliability]?</em></p>
<p><em>What if</em> those same people had the confidence, skill and knowledge to stand up like appraisers are expected to do, and say &#8220;I underwrote that loan. Right or wrong, it was MY decision based on a properly completed appraisal; an apparently qualified borrower and a properly completed loan package with all necessary verifications; and in accordance with applicable policies.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no end to playing the &#8220;<em>What if&#8221; game.</em></p>
<p><em> </em><em>What if it serves no discernible purpose except to create doubt where none should exist to begin with?</em></p>
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		By: Eric West		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric West]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 16:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;What if&quot; implies that CU users are second guessing appraisers and their work!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What if&#8221; implies that CU users are second guessing appraisers and their work!</p>
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		By: Xpert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many appraisers misinterpreted fnma&#039;s &quot;new and improved&quot; cu update message. Doesn&#039;t this tell you something about fnma&#039;s communication skills?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many appraisers misinterpreted fnma&#8217;s &#8220;new and improved&#8221; cu update message. Doesn&#8217;t this tell you something about fnma&#8217;s communication skills?</p>
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		<link>https://appraisersblogs.com/CU-properties-editing-tool-confusion/#comment-17914</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[and this will give untrained unqualified loan officers, so called &quot;reviewers&quot;  and others an excuse to send us &quot;three more comps&quot; and what ever to try to steer the reported value.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and this will give untrained unqualified loan officers, so called &#8220;reviewers&#8221;  and others an excuse to send us &#8220;three more comps&#8221; and what ever to try to steer the reported value.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sure. Don&#039;t panic. Similar to I&#039;m from the government and here to help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure. Don&#8217;t panic. Similar to I&#8217;m from the government and here to help.</p>
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